Letters to the Editor

From the week of June 8, 2006

Let the Games Begin!

Men overboard: I was disgusted by Jessica Centers's article about Denver pick-up artists, "Game On," in the June 1 issue. I'm a twenty-something guy, and it is totally obvious to me why people have so much trouble finding real relationships and why the divorce rate is so high. If immature girls are so impressed with the superficial ability to make conversation that they throw themselves at guys even as they are making out with other girls, is there any question why people cheat on each other? That's not flirting, that's just sleazy.

But, hey, at least these guys have "rules" about how far they will go if they're not really interested. They should just advertise it: "Congratulations, girls, you're getting played!" And what's so intriguing about a guy who ignores the girl he is interested in, anyway? I completely agree that girls know if they're going to talk to a guy before he even says anything.

That said, the intentions of the PUA groups generally are good, because most guys need all the help we can get with attracting women. But seriously, who falls for that crap? Successful relationships are built on both actions and words, and it looks like our generation still has a long way to go.

David Costantino
Denver

Hey, baby, wanna go out? I have heard a lot of pick-up lines being thrown around in the Game, but here is one of my favorites: "Did you know that the human body is made up of 90 percent water? And all of a sudden I'm feeling kinda thirsty!" No one takes lines like these seriously, but they do initiate a conversation. Ladies, I hope you can relate to me when I say that pick-up artists can be just as funny as a lame line. Pick-up artists like Matt and Greg are adding excitement to our Saturdays by giving tips to guys who might very well need them. Sometimes Mr. Nice Guy just needs a nudge to get the party started. However, I want to give would-be PUAs a fair warning before they rush over to the lair: Do not lose what makes you genuine. Women are smarter than men and will cut right through the bullshit. So if you go out looking for a peach and find yourself ready to go after the whole tree, just remember that you won't find anything sweet about a woman scorned by lies and deceit.

My first impression of the lair was that it was a place to teach guys how to get laid. As a woman, I had my doubts that would even work, but if guys are being taught how to lie to women in order to get them into bed, then we would all have a problem. However, that's not what Matt's intentions are, and I have to commend him for that. I would like to team up with Matt at some point and go over what women want: He needs to hear it from a woman's perspective.

My heart goes out to all those women out there who might be inexperienced in the dating game who are now subject to lies and goodbyes. To all you PUA wannabes: Say your lines and get a few laughs, but be honest and you might get a few girls!

Amy Cashman
Denver

California scheming: Although I enjoyed reading "Game On," LoDo does not compare to the glitz and glamour action of the Strip -- Sunset Boulevard -- in West Hollywood, California. There are many real pick-up artists in Los Angeles who haven't paid to learn how to pick up fine women and who help each other out, including giving directions to others who merit their attention. From the San Fernando Valley, they branch into Hollywood, West Hollywood, West Los Angeles, Santa Monica and as far as Las Vegas to pick up superstar ladies.

The better and higher the "game," the better the "action," the relationships and the ongoing results. It is like polo, a Mercedes-Benz, a movie-star lifestyle and good showmanship mixed together. The "game" is only good if the fine women are good enough for the "game."

Emzy Veazy III
Los Angeles, Aspen, Denver

Lame on: Are you kidding me? These guys have proclaimed themselves pick-up artists after compiling a resumé chock-full of LoDo and Aurora Stampede women? These are the same guys who brag about the fish they caught at the Washington Park children's pond using corn and worms. That high-five rap was pretty solid, huh? The long hours refining and perfecting the perfect move; the modern manifestation of de Sade's lyrical prose. What an in! And that grueling membership test -- wow.

The article was amusing and very informative, but you really blew an opportunity. These guys and the ladies who fall for their lame rap needed to be crucified. Where was Cayton-Holland when the community needed him?

Chris Wals
Denver


Something's Troubling

Pros and conflicts: Regarding Michael Roberts's "Exposed," the June 1 Message:

I have an issue -- no, I have a real problem with Tom Martino, the so-called Troubleshooter. How can this idiot pass himself off as a consumers' advocate and yet have his name and (really ugly) face plastered on buses, billboards and numerous other advertisements promoting companies and associated products?

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