Drink Up, Ladies!

Steve Horner's crusade to end ladies' nights falls flat.

A A A Comments (4) By Patricia Calhoun Thursday, Aug 9 2007

This is not only something I can do as a United States citizen, this is something I believe I must do," Steve Horner told Judge Brian Campbell. "This is Rosa Parksish. This is Martin Luther Kingish."

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This is ludicrousish.

On its surface, the concept of ladies' nights might seem unfair — but no wellspring of historic discrimination raises the issue to the level of the American civil rights movement. There's just Steve Horner, and his endless thirst to do away with the practice. A thirst that last Thursday landed Westword in Denver County Court, where Horner had sued this paper for publishing thirty ads that mentioned a ladies' night, demanding $500 for each instance.

"I'm going to try not to be melodramatic, but I'm very passionate about this case," Horner said as he made his opening argument, or what passed for it. "It's about civil rights. It's about the protections of the U.S. Constitution. . . . This case is no different than if a black person was up here pleading for his or her rights, if she or he was denied equal treatment at a grocery store."

But after Horner spent several passionate hours sorting through piles of paper and piling on circuitous arguments to prove that he had been grievously injured by the ads for ladies' nights, "humiliated over not being invited to the party, and very, very angry," the judge ruled in favor of Westword's motion for a directed verdict, agreeing that Horner had no legal standing to bring a civil-rights complaint against the newspaper for publishing those ads.

"I have footing!" responded Horner, who'd represented himself. And then said it again and again. "I have all the footing in the world."

He did not have all the time in the world, as Campbell ultimately made clear. But before that, Horner was able to get in some of his favorite lines, comparing his crusade to that of renowned civil-rights figures, and comparing ladies' nights (and feminism, naturally) to the KKK and terrorism. "I'm thinking, why should women get special favors when they've asked for no special favors for the last 35 years?" he asked the court. "We're saying we want equal rights but when the time comes for special favors, those get tossed under the carpet for money, frivolity, booze and sex."

We've heard it before and we'll hear it again, since Horner still has numerous cases pending in county court against bars around town, and also says he may appeal this decision. But he won't be able to argue that Campbell didn't take him seriously, because the judge let Horner go on at mind-numbing length, leading to exchanges like this one as the judge delivered his ruling that the words "indirectly discriminate" in the state civil-rights statute do not apply to newspaper ads.

"Can I interject?" Horner asked.

"You didn't let me interject," the judge responded.

"I'm just a human being," Horner replied. "It was certainly not malicious or intentional. But as a person in advertising, I know that your interpretation is totally incorrect."

After the judge finally managed to make it through his ruling and left the courtroom, Horner claimed that Campbell was prejudiced, "a buffoon," and had "found a way to weasel out" of considering the civil rights issue by focusing on Horner's legal standing — or lack thereof.

But it was certainly an effective way to give Horner the boot. For now.

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Steve Horner 08/11/2007 5:51:00 PM

Jenna,of course you don't agree with me about the nature,causes,effects,solutions, identifiers, or anything even slightly composed of or resembling feminism. That's because you don't know the nature,cause,effects,solutions,identifiers of anything in your life:You're the perfect idiot created by feminism;just as Karl Marx was perfectly successful at creating a society of apathetic know-nothings who were perfectly content with getting high,remaining ignorant,being immoral,killing their babies,and living off the state,just as long as they paid into his collective ante-up pool.So, you're the perfect know-nothing chump,Jenna.And that's the problem with today's idiots like you:You're too damn stupid to realize just how damn stupid you really are and that's exactly where feminism,socialism,communism,Marxism(they're all the same)wants to keep you.So, whatever your response might be,Jenna, it will only be of a short-sighted,self-serving mentality.I just wish that idiot chicks like you could be drafted into the Army so you'd have some drill sergeant kick your worthless little(probably huge)ass up around your shoulders but that won't happen because even though feminism has ranted about the need for equality,most women are strangely nowhere to be found when the shooting starts,even though they're usually the ones who have instigated the problems which lead to shooting.But,once again,Jenna,I'm getting carried away and for what? You don't understand nothing about nothing anyhow so it's a waste of my time. You're just a frickin' snail,sweetie, and I can't wait for the current culture to crumble,which is happening every day(just check out the stock market)and watch idiots like you struggle to make it on your own without the state to pick up the tab.That's what I enjoy watching the most these days. To me, it's better than any World Series or Super Bowl.So, good luck,Jenna. Believe me, you're going to need it. And when you need it the most,due to your own idiocy,I'll be on the sidelines with a cold beer, laughing.
Jenna 08/10/2007 11:17:00 PM

Steve: Once more, and slowly. Feminists didn't create Ladies' Night. The people we fight against created Ladies Night. The status quo created Ladies Night. The patriarchy created Ladies Night. Now, granted, we feminists don't feel led to fight against it, but that's mainly because we're too busy trying to retain integral rights, like the right to control our bodies. If you are going to blame someone, blame the right someone. In closing, and in big letters so that you can't miss it: FEMINISTS NEITHER CREATED NOR SUPPORTED LADIES NIGHTS. Oh, and you wrote: "one of the highest un-wed teen rates in the U.S." And this is a bad thing? I don't really want more wed teens. As for abortion rates and the like, it takes a while for progressive movements to sink in and improve things. Colorado is square in the middle of the pack on most of the stats you mentioned, and is improving.
Steve 08/10/2007 6:21:00 PM

I see that "b" doesn't have the guts to identify him(her)self nor is able to discover the personal initiative to take the action against me which she(he)has chosen to burden the rest of society with. That's the popular apathy I find among many lobotomized Coloradans. And, "b", the fact is, you were not doing fine here in Do-Nothing,Know-Nothing U.S.A. before I got here.The truth is Coloradans have one of the highest crime rates in the United States,one of the highest un-wed teen rates in the U.S., one of the highest abortion rates in the U.S.,and the highest number of failing public schools per capita in the U.S.,not to mention being the home of the highest rate of illegal immigrants in America and the highest taxes anywhere to pay for all the dysfunctionality but,because of your lobotomy "b",you have conveniently cast a blind eye to the problems.When the whole pile of problems comes barrelling down on you,as it inevitably will,and probably is as I type,please let me know so I can laugh in your silly face.All I'm trying to do is rid society of the feminist-generated double standards which have created the above-named problems and the issue of ladies'night allows me to get the conversation out in the open.I have been greatly successful at accomplishing that mission,regardless of how your lobotomized brain dissects the issue.
b 08/09/2007 11:42:00 PM

I'm wondering what it is going to take before enough people get sick of this idiot and simply run him out of town with his tail between his legs. Seriously, it used to not be that hard to round up a posse, put someone in a potato sack and dump them at the county line. I mean, at the very least I think we should organize to rent a few billboards around town, put the guy's face up on it and make sure he isn't welcome in any private establishment in this town. Honestly, if you don't like the stuff you see in the city you chose to move to -- then move away. We were doing just fine before you showed up trying to make things "better", Steve.