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Quiznos Has A Full Plate

The sandwich chain is improving, but some franchisees are still hungry for change.

Last week, Quiznos chairman and former CEO Richard Schaden delivered the keynote address at the Under One Roof — Denver Help the Homeless Summit that brought mayors from around the country to Denver to discuss ways to end homelessness.

But event promoters had also promised that Schaden would make a "major announcement," and he did. After Mayor Hickenlooper praised people who give "quietly" and not for recognition, Schaden made a speech that was anything but quiet.

"It's with great hope and pride that on behalf of the Schaden Family Foundation, that we make this contribution to Denver's Road Home and Mercy Housing to be used for the first, I hope, of many projects across the Denver community providing homes for the currently homeless. And we are committing to 1.5 million..." Before he could say "dollars," the room erupted in a standing ovation, applause which continued through the presentation of a "big, corny check," as Schaden called it, to the mayor.

This piece of publicity followed a string of good news for Quiznos, which had dealt with a lot of the opposite early in the year. In September, franchisees who were plaintiffs in a Michigan lawsuit against the Denver-based company voluntarily withdrew their claims. In October, the sandwich chain was ranked number one in wait-time performance by the Mystery Shopping Providers Association. And a few weeks ago, a federal judge in Wisconsin dismissed another franchisee suit against Quiznos.

Yes, things are looking up as Quiznos, under new leadership since January, continues to reshape its image and attempt to regain the confidence of its franchisees.

But making over Schaden's image may be a tougher sell — at least among the members of the Toasted Subs Franchisee Association, who have been driving the legal attacks on the company. While they praise changes made by new CEO and turnaround expert Greg Brenneman, they continue to charge Schaden — individually in their suits and vehemently in their complaints — of profiting at the expense of lives and livelihoods.

"Congratulations to Rick Schaden and his success, but I have no respect for the way he went about it," says association president and Boulder franchise owner Danny Kessels. "It's dirty money. Blood money."

Much of the public turmoil began with the filing of the now-dismissed Wisconsin lawsuit a year ago this month. The suit — which was not the first franchisee action against Quiznos, but was one of the first organized by the TSFA — accused the company of setting up an illegal business model by which it made profits not from the sandwiches sold to customers, but from the fees and products it trapped franchisees into paying for.

The suit might have gone largely under the radar if not for Bob Baber's fatal decision a few days later. The California franchisee shot himself three times in the chest in a Quiznos bathroom, leaving a suicide note to the media that blamed the company for his death. When TSFA founder Chris Bray posted that note to the group's web page, Quiznos terminated the franchise agreements of the TSFA's boardmembers, ("You're Toast," May 3). Eight owners sued to keep their stores open. Bray settled in August and stopped talking publicly about Quiznos (“Sinking Sub,” August 23).

But the lawsuits continued to speak for themselves. TSFA attorney Justin Klein pursued identical class actions in Michigan and Illinois, as well as a Colorado suit on behalf of would-be franchisees who paid and lost a $25,000 franchise fee because they were never able to find a location. Then, a week after Bray's settlement, Klein added another suit in Denver federal court that he hopes to have certified as a national class action.

But whatever momentum he had built was slowed when he withdrew the Michigan case and came to a dead stop with the Wisconsin dismissal.

In his decision, Judge William Griesbach of the U.S. Eastern District Court of Wisconsin wrote that the fraud claims were "fatally undermined" by "exhaustive disclosures" and "specific disclaimers" that were contained in Quiznos documentation the franchisees had seen and in the contracts they'd signed.

While he dismissed federal racketeering, fraud and anti-trust claims, Griesbach didn't take a position on various state claims in the suit. He even left plaintiffs with a glimmer of hope, writing that their breach-of-contract claims and their claims under the Wisconsin Fair Dealership Law and Deceptive Trade Practices Act "may be more appropriately considered by Wisconsin's state courts."

Thus, Klein says he is preparing another lawsuit for Wisconsin state court while also planning to appeal the judge's dismissal of the federal claims. His other cases, he adds, are still pending; all are presently in the discovery phase. "I don't think it's going to have an effect on the other cases," he says.

Quiznos' Richard Emmett, however, sees the Wisconsin dismissal as a clear sign of things to come. The company's executive vice president and chief legal counsel, part of the new management team, says the decision, which came from a respected judge, was "direct," "preliminary" and "harsh." "Their voluntary withdrawal [of the Michigan case] is very telling," he says. "People can draw their own conclusions."

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  • Janet 09/09/2010 12:32:00 PM

    I do not think Quiznos has any idea what the owners go through. The program under Schadens control is without feeling for the pulse of their company. The owners are what propel the company forward. The high cost of food,which Quiznos gets their cut, and the high cost of the amount of labor it takes to produce the product. Owners have a hard time making a profit because Quiznos business plan is flawed. You still spend a lot to open the restaurant and if you try and sell the value is 1/10th of the cost to open. The low re sale value is not the only thing that keeps the stores in limbo. The rude handling of the owners and potential owners gives you the impression that they are GOD like and have so much control of your life. Other chains such as sub way, work more closely and support their restaurants and owners with great care. Not with insults. So the New image that Schaden is trying to create is really funny. He should show more concern towards his restaurant owners and maybe the image will go from the inside out.

  • Elissa Siferd 01/30/2008 1:18:00 AM

    Good Morning, My comment is on the former owner of Quiznos, Rick Shadden. While Quiznos is under new corporate management and that can only be a good thing for the franchisee. Rick Shadens's disreguard for ethical business practice has financially crippled countless franchisee across the nation. Unfortunately I too bought into yet another one of Rick Shadden's businesses. In November 2005, I became one of the very idealistic franchisee's of yet another one of Rick's brain childs,123 Fit. I'm not going to go into all the details because they exactly parallel the Quiznos misdirection and fraud. I am a thirty one year old women that has had the opportunity to personally promote the health of my community . I have gotten to see first hand people getting healthy, going off their blood pressure medication, insulin, and losing weight. The struggle now is for me to make peace with the fact I did the best thing I could have done with my degree, my life, and for my community, but is also happens to be the worst financial decision EVER. Whos responsible for consumer, who can I reach out to so that dosen't happen to anyone else. Sicerely, Elissa A Siferd I filled for bankrupcy and am moving on.

  • Cathy Ferrara 01/26/2008 11:57:00 PM

    I totally agree with Barbara, Rick Schaden should start a fund for all of the people who have lost their life savings because of the all of the promises and lies that were made by 123 fit.

  • Barbara Jorgensen 01/26/2008 10:08:00 PM

    Rick Shaden would be a greater man if he would help the many people who made him wealthy. He needs to start a foundation for 123 fit and Quizno's people who lost their shirts making him wealthy. Giving to the homeless and making other's lose their homes, retirement and much more. A big contradiction. I challenge you to rise to the occasion and help the people that made you wealthy. Good franchises help them succeed instead of soaking them for everything they worked for. It doesn't impress me you gave to the homeless. You need to help those you have hurt. The honest person who invested in your scams. Making us poor and then giving to the poor. Doesn't make sense. Does it? Barbara

  • Susan 01/26/2008 9:38:00 PM

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  • Byron Augustine 11/22/2007 5:33:00 PM

    Although the money is being used for a good cause, it has probable been obtained through the Quiznos franchise system that in many cases has left its very own franchise owners without homes and destroyed many families. Having experienced the Quiznos franchise system myself I believe this donation is nothing but an attempt to by good will, and I have no respect for how it was done. If you really want a good perspective of the litigation against Quiznos pickup a copy of the current UFOC. The litigation disclosures alone are about 30 pages. Also, the continued grand standing by Quiznos about lowering food costs has been obtained by increasing store pricing, combined with reduced product specs. Very little of the lower food costs have come from price reductions in product that franchise owners are required to purchase from specific vendors controlled by Quiznos. What is disappointing to me as a Franchise Owner is Quiznos will not listen to an organized group of Franchise Owners such as the TSFA, and they have taken the recent dismissal in Wisconsin as an opportunity to belittle its Franchise Owners and intimidate anyone else from fighting them in court. If litigation against a corporate giant didn�t cost 100�s of thousands I believe pending litigation against Quiznos would be significantly amplified, which is why efforts that combine financial strength are important such as those organized by the TSFA. Without combining the forces together it would be difficult if not impossible for many franchise owners, who in many cases invested everything they had for a Quiznos franchise to take legal recourse against a franchisor such as Quiznos.

  • Byron Augustine 11/22/2007 5:33:00 PM

    Although the money is being used for a good cause, it has probable been obtained through the Quiznos franchise system that in many cases has left its very own franchise owners without homes and destroyed many families. Having experienced the Quiznos franchise system myself I believe this donation is nothing but an attempt to by good will, and I have no respect for how it was done. If you really want a good perspective of the litigation against Quiznos pickup a copy of the current UFOC. The litigation disclosures alone are about 30 pages. Also, the continued grand standing by Quiznos about lowering food costs has been obtained by increasing store pricing, combined with reduced product specs. Very little of the lower food costs have come from price reductions in product that franchise owners are required to purchase from specific vendors controlled by Quiznos. What is disappointing to me as a Franchise Owner is Quiznos will not listen to an organized group of Franchise Owners such as the TSFA, and they have taken the recent dismissal in Wisconsin as an opportunity to belittle its Franchise Owners and intimidate anyone else from fighting them in court. If litigation against a corporate giant didn�t cost 100�s of thousands I believe pending litigation against Quiznos would be significantly amplified, which is why efforts that combine financial strength are important such as those organized by the TSFA. Without combining the forces together it would be difficult if not impossible for many franchise owners, who in many cases invested everything they had for a Quiznos franchise to take legal recourse against a franchisor such as Quiznos.

  • Byron Augustine 11/22/2007 5:32:00 PM

    Although the money is being used for a good cause, it has probable been obtained through the Quiznos franchise system that in many cases has left its very own franchise owners without homes and destroyed many families. Having experienced the Quiznos franchise system myself I believe this donation is nothing but an attempt to by good will, and I have no respect for how it was done. If you really want a good perspective of the litigation against Quiznos pickup a copy of the current UFOC. The litigation disclosures alone are about 30 pages. Also, the continued grand standing by Quiznos about lowering food costs has been obtained by increasing store pricing, combined with reduced product specs. Very little of the lower food costs have come from price reductions in product that franchise owners are required to purchase from specific vendors controlled by Quiznos. What is disappointing to me as a Franchise Owner is Quiznos will not listen to an organized group of Franchise Owners such as the TSFA, and they have taken the recent dismissal in Wisconsin as an opportunity to belittle its Franchise Owners and intimidate anyone else from fighting them in court. If litigation against a corporate giant didn�t cost 100�s of thousands I believe pending litigation against Quiznos would be significantly amplified, which is why efforts that combine financial strength are important such as those organized by the TSFA. Without combining the forces together it would be difficult if not impossible for many franchise owners, who in many cases invested everything they had for a Quiznos franchise to take legal recourse against a franchisor such as Quiznos.

 
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