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Garrett 11/09/2010 12:58:00 AM
I'm surprised no body brought this up but the Pogues are English, or at least they became the Pogues in London in 1982. They are not an Irish export.
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Dead 03/18/2009 7:20:00 PM
I have to agree with step 6. There is a Bar named Finnegan's here in Pensacola,Florida. Opened last year. I thought "WOW, Finally an actual bar in town with an Irish name that actually sells Guinness or any other real Irish whiskey." But when I went inside it was horrible. it was as if Ireland came by and threw up all over the place. Posters every foot on every wall with green floors and harps playing and ...... What the fuck happened? Then as we were leaving there was a band outside playing Lynard Synard - Sweet home Alabama...... Fuck. There is also O'Reilly's Irish Pub. Used to be cool. but went to the shitters when they stopped serving Guinness, Jameson, etc. now they have some knock off bullshit ass beer that tastes like half a pint on Guinness, half a pint of water. fuck this town sucks. If I had the money, I would definitely open a pub around here and show these true stupid jack asses what a "real" pub is supposed to be... Fuck
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Dead 03/18/2009 7:19:00 PM
I have to agree with step 6. There is a Bar named Finnegan's here in Pensacola,Florida. Opened last year. I thought "WOW, Finally an actual bar in town with an Irish name that actually sells Guinness or any other real Irish whiskey." But when I went inside it was horrible. it was as if Ireland came by and threw up all over the place. Posters every foot on every wall with green floors and harps playing and ...... What the fuck happened? Then as we were leaving there was a band outside playing Lynard Synard - Sweet home Alabama...... Fuck. There is also O'Reilly's Irish Pub. Used to be cool. but went to the shitters when they stopped serving Guinness, Jameson, etc. now they have some knock off bullshit ass beer that tastes like half a pint on Guinness, half a pint of water. fuck this town sucks. If I had the money, I would definitely open a pub around here and show these true stupid jack asses what a "real" pub is supposed to be... Fuck
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Chistafer 02/04/2009 10:10:00 PM
You described the old "Nalens" before it was moved to Market, That's whenit lost it's glory! It used to be located off California Street and when you walked in you had irishmen right off the boat sitting at the bar having a pint. On any given day the Young Dubliners would stop by and play in the corner on a makeshift wood stage. Now that was the only true Irish bar Denver has had in the last 20 years!
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Chistafer 02/04/2009 10:10:00 PM
You described the old "Nalens" before it was moved to Market, That's whenit lost it's glory! It used to be located off California Street and when you walked in you had irishmen right off the boat sitting at the bar having a pint. On any given day the Young Dubliners would stop by and play in the corner on a makeshift wood stage. Now that was the only true Irish bar Denver has had in the last 20 years!
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blog commenter in residence 01/16/2009 5:25:00 PM
Best. Irish. Pub. Ever: The Crown Saloon, Belfast Norn Iron.
Second best: Shabeen in County Armagh whose location I'm not at liberty to disclose. If the peelers come, "you were invited to a 'party.'" Money kept in plastic bags, of course.
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John 01/15/2009 3:27:00 PM
The most authentic Irish bar i ever went to was in Poland.
Not a single Irish person working there, only Polish people.
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Dave 01/15/2009 3:16:00 PM
I find it funny how Irish emigrants and "Irish" americans always look so fondly on Ireland.
Fact is the ireland that these people know, or at least think they do, is gone.
Real irish pubs are disapearing.
If you "irish" americans want the real taste of ireland, come over, go have a dozen drinks at some shitty american inspired "pub" then get stabbed on your way home by a group of knackers that want your mobile phone only so they can throw it in the Lee.
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Mike 01/15/2009 4:05:00 AM
The irish here have thousands of bars from sawdust joints to grand pubs and the real off the boaters drink coors light cause it is cheap. The good Guiness and such is aimed 2nd gen folks. Not saying some arn't great but its true
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Flynn 01/15/2009 2:47:00 AM
What kind of eejit calls the head on a Guinness foam? Certainly not someone I'd look to for advice on finding an Irish bar. There are some fine Irish bars in Denver. This columnist is ill informed on the subject.
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Shannon 01/15/2009 1:39:00 AM
Jameson's. Really. I suppose, but only after you are sure you have Bushmill's. All Bushmill's. Well, not the 10 year old, but the white, the black, and DEFINITELY the 16 year old.
In Ireland the most chosen food in pubs is fish and chips. Yes, fish and chips.
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Ellis 01/14/2009 9:32:00 PM
Well the comments show that the other thing we Irish do well is fight! Imagine that we might all have different opinions on the best beer and booze and what makes the best irish bar...
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Glen 01/14/2009 8:51:00 PM
Nallen's? seriously? About as close to good irish bar as you can find in lodo, I suppose, but it used to be better before it moved to it's current place. Mainly it's the crowd that bugs me...the Snug is great, but still a bit short, and Nobody, at any time , should consider the 'Celtic' to be a good anything, certainly not an Irish bar.
As for the Spirits- Jason, you disappoint me. As a fellow descendent of the chosen, I would expect you to mention at least a couple other possibilities: Powers? Tullamore? even Bushmills (I spose you knew that Jameson and Bushmills are made by the same family now, yah?) if you must have only one Irish, Jameson is ok, though most of us *real* Irish consider J's to be a bit sweet and americanized.
( and yes, cousin, consider this a challenge...)
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NA 01/14/2009 8:23:00 PM
More authentic than Guinness is Smithwicks. Smithwicks is the oldest operating brewery in Ireland (1710, Guinness 1759). Also the original recipe for 'stout' beer is an English invention.
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Stephen 01/14/2009 8:11:00 PM
"corned beef and cabbage"?? I've lived in Ireland my entire life and have never once seen this on a menu in any Irish pub, restaurant etc.
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Frank 01/14/2009 8:08:00 PM
I can't piss without hitting a good Irish Pub. Move to Boston.
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Dub 01/14/2009 8:05:00 PM
Yes, u may serve crisps and candy (flakes, twirl, wispa)
Also remember:
-Quiz nights, have them.
-The point of an Irish Pub is not to profit, but just to maintain a place to drink your life away and employ a few relatives.
-2 1/2 words: Co-ed bathrooms. Not for sex, but it just leads to a very Irish form of banter when both chics and dudes are drunk ass eff and trying to piss.
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Paddy in Boston 01/14/2009 8:00:00 PM
Yes, agree with a lot of your comments,
A good Irish Bar is one where there are no TV's with stupid sports on TV ,,in fact only one TV is allowed and it must show horseracing. No music also, but a fella with a fiddle or a flute is acceptable on the weekend's.
Children running around the place always a good thing up to 7pm.
No Miller or Budweiser neon signs in the window also a requirement.
And finally good food. A good Shepards or Chicken pot pie a definate, none of your nacho nonsense.
And finally a mandatory photo with the owner in a photo with a recent Irish Taoiseach.
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rory 01/14/2009 7:44:00 PM
The Hawk & Dove or The Fox & Hound are fine for English Bars.
They don't belong on an Irish Bar.
Doyle's, Connolly's, Sheehan's, Mulligan's etc. You do get the odd "The Bleedin' Horse" or "The Hairy Lemon" but not as common as a surname on a pub's front.
Music in bars...grand and all but as a rule not really necessary. In fact often better without music. Friday, Sat grand but mid-week for a pint and a chat, cut the cable on the jukebox...
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rory 01/14/2009 7:37:00 PM
In Ireland Harp = worse than Bud. Much worse! No-one here drinks it if they can get anything else instead.
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Kelsey Whalen 01/14/2009 7:36:00 PM
Right on.
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dahamsta 01/14/2009 7:35:00 PM
[Feel free to star out or replace the profanity. I'm being authentically Irish, what with being in Ladysbridge in Cork an' all.]
You lost credibility when you mentioned Harp. Harp is piss, the Budweiser/Fosters of Ireland. The only good thing Harp ever brought to this world is the "Pinta Harp and a packeta dates there Laurence" ad from the late eighties.
Jameson isn't bad but Black Bush from our friends north of the border is smoother, and Midleton Rare is the finest Irish whiskey on the... well, in Ireland. I don't think it should be allowed outside the country.
Ampersanded pub named are british, not Irish. Ampersanded pub names IN Ireland are there because some British bastard named it, and we haven't got around to changing it yet. Sure there's no rush like. (Lenny Henry said it best when he described Ireland as a "cold Jamaica" and gave an example of an Irish fella ejected from the pub, horizontally, with his pint still in his hand, saying "ah sure I was leavin' anyway.")
Road, cigarette and drink signs are ok as long as they're genuine. In particular the road sign, which has to be in miles - none of your new-fangled kilometers here please - and stolen and "exported" yourself, wrapped in bin bags. Plus of course they all have to a bit dirty. As does everything in the bar, particularly the bartop itself. A slight stickiness on the tables adds realism.
"Irish music" isn't enough. Boyzone and Westlife are Irish ffs, and no self-respecting Irish man would listen to that twaddle. And of course Irish women aren't allowed in proper Irish bars, except perhaps for a half on Sundays after Mass.
On the food front it's actually King crisps you want, plus a nearly empty card of Bacon Fries and a box of Cadburys Snacks. Purple ones, obviously. If you want to draw in real Irish alcoholics, Cr�s are your only man.
adam
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Dmac 01/14/2009 7:27:00 PM
And if you are showing sports on TV, it had better be a rugby game if there is a rugby game anywhere in the world at that particular instant...
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Mike K 01/14/2009 7:21:00 PM
The Snug used to be good until they expanded with their frat-boy basement.
Right now i'd have to say Patrick Carroll's is the best Irish pub in town, but I have to agree, Denver severely lacks them.
Oh, and Dropkick Murphys or Flogging Molly does not count as Irish music.
Thank you.
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Daniel 01/14/2009 7:16:00 PM
G'wan you're only a muppet! Listen what about Beamish? What about Murphy's? Harp, for fuck's sake! Why don't you go ahead and serve shite?
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Michael 01/14/2009 7:00:00 PM
Nallens is far and away the best you will find near Downtown Denver.
Celtic is in the middle, with Fado's at the far, far, far, bottom.
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Cian 01/14/2009 7:00:00 PM
Great article, but it makes me weep for Ireland. Every... single... bar... in this country uses a jigger for every single measure poured. For the country that invented drinking, the publicans here make a great trade from screwing their customers out of money. When I took a trip to the US and discovered that a Jack and Coke comprises of a glass full of whiskey with a dash of coke on top, I nearly cried with joy.
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DenverScener 01/08/2009 9:55:00 PM
Ahhh the age-old American quest for the proper Irish pub. I'm glad you clarified your search as Irish-American though, for there are many types of Actual Irish bars in Ireland, some 'authentic' some not. But you are right a proper irish(american)pub needs to have Guinness and jameson, no kitsch need apply - only authentic articles that have accumulated over time, a little dust, maybe even carpet like in the old country, food? never, packages of crisps for sure, surly strange bartender at first - best friend by the end of your round, people who frequent this pub must also drink the Irish way - in rounds! until all have paid for a round thus completing a session. Denver has some good Pubs - not great though. Also you can't blame Nalens for being in a neighborhood so long to see it go 'nightclub', just like you can't blame the Snug for serving jalapeno poppers, or the Rover for being dull, or the Auld Dubliner from being way the eff down on Broadway next to nothing.
Top 5 Denver Irish Pubs in nor particular order:
Nalens
Snug
Auld Dubliner
Celtic (not on the weekends)
Scruffys
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Shannon 01/08/2009 3:35:00 AM
You can indeed serve some food - Tayto's Cheese & Onion crisps. Yum.
Also, Irish coffees made from double-strong instant coffee, spoonful of sugar, Jameson's and fresh, very lightly sweetened and lightly whipped cream poured on top over the back of a spoon (don't swish!). Reddi Whip or the like is just wrong.