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shawnmoul 05/05/2010 8:25:00 PM
to the Editor:
What part of 'illegal' do you not understand? The bill, nor those support it OR NOT ANTI-IMMIGRANT! We are not trying to drive out immigrants - only illegal immigrants. This Arizona bill does not single out 'brown skinned' immigrants. Unless of course you are admitting that most of the illegals that come across the border are Mexican?
Tired of you biased journalists spinning lies! Try calling it what it is - anti-illegal immigrants who are illegally using our resources and bringing their crime across our borders. And yes, illegals are breaking our laws, just by coming across our borders illegally. They do not have US Citizen rights. PERIOD! And what about all of the immigrants who do come in legally?
Knock off the crap and quit spinning hatred!
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ANDRE 05/05/2010 8:17:00 PM
ARIZONA HAS A REASON FOR THE LAW, AND THE OTHER STATES SHOULD FOLLOW WITH THE SAME LAW IF NOT MORE, THE THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE STOPPED AND CONTROLLED ASAP. MANY AMERICANS ARE WITH OUT JOBS AND NON-CITIZENS ARE HERE TAKING MONEY AND SENDING IT BACK HOME, SO THE MONEY ISN'T GOING BACK INTO OUR ECONOMY ITS GOING TO ANOTHER COUNTY'S ECONOMY. THAT SAID THIS COULD FINISH OFF THE USA'S RECOVERY PROCESS. WE NEED TO STAND UP FOR OUR COUNTRY AND NOT BE SO PEACEFUL AND OPEN TO WHO EVER...
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El Chingon 05/05/2010 5:38:00 PM
I say send Chuck Norris down there at 3pm. He kick all the beaner asses before happy hour at Cowgirls.
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tony 05/05/2010 5:25:00 PM
the american government must stop sending money to the mexican government.i have lived in mexicofor 8 years, i have seen it all. i am a retired military officer,that money the USA is sending to mexico is going to the cartel. It is a fact. We are helping the problem in mexico financially. The police in mexico on every level, is all connected with the cartel.
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Mike McGarry 05/05/2010 12:23:00 PM
It took me only the first two paragraphs of this lazy piece of sham journalism to realize it is just another open-borders rant.
Probably most insulting to the readers is the glairingly obvious fact that its author, Susana Hayward, is either lying or doesn't have the self-respect to have read the much-needed Airzona law. She writes: "Arizona...has passed a law requiring the police to stop anyone they think might be here illegally and force production of proof of citizenship." The law calls for no such thing.
Ms. Hayward is consciously lying our she is just an arrogant, ignorant, reckless fool. My guess is that her pants are on fire.
It really amazes me just how corrupt current "journalism" has become. Shame! Shame! Shame!
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yiddishlion 05/05/2010 7:12:00 AM
IMMIGRANTS ARE LEGAL. ALIENS ARE ILLEGAL.
NOTICE HOW LIBERAL PRESS TRIES TO ALTER DISCOURSE BY CONFUSING DEFINITIONS. ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE NOW ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. AS IF SOME HOW THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE. THEY TRY TO MARGINALIZE THE NATURE OF ILLEGAL ACTIVITY BY LENDING TO IT A SENSE OF FAIRNESS AND EQUALITY WITH THAT WHICH IS RIGHT. JUST LIKE HOW TERRORISTS HAVE NOW BECOME INSURGENTS. HAS A MUCH MORE WARM AND FUZZY RING TO IT. AS IF WHAT THEY DO SOMEHOW POSSES SOME DEGREE OF ACCEPTABILITY DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.
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yiddishlion 05/05/2010 7:02:00 AM
America is losing her exceptionalism. People used to IMMIGRATE here to become Americans because we were the better place to live. A sanctuary from third world squalor. Now people want to come here to try and turn America into where they came from. Why? The whole argument centered around the ideal of DIVERSITY is ignorant and destructive to our national identity. America became strong because we became one people. We had a strong basic moral standard, and one unified vision of freedom and liberty which kept us prosperous and safe within the bounds of our laws. E PLURIBUS UNUM on our coinage means out of many one. Not the other way around. The term alien should be used for illegals because they did not immigrate. However the subversive left always tries to blur the line and change the definition of the argument to covertly alter the discourse by making all things relevant and equal. They are not! WAKE UP PEOPLE! YOU HAVE BEEN INVADED BY OPERATIVES FROM LESSER COUNTRIES WHO ARE SECRETLY ORGANIZING AND TRYING TO PUSH A NATION ON THE BRINK OVER THE EDGE! What is waiting on the bottom is an existence of mediocrity. Are you willing to be like all those other countries and cultures that everyone is trying to escape from?
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yiddishlion 05/05/2010 6:34:00 AM
Your article starts off immediately by establishing a false pretext.
"Yet there is now fervor to drive immigrants out—almost at all costs. Keep them from coming here—almost at all costs."
No, what we want is for illegal ALIENS to return and come here legally. Everyone here is from somewhere else. Immigrants are not the problem. However those of you on the left will never cease in your effort to twist the facts to support your illogical ideology. That is an even bigger problem as it perverts what is actually true. Thus altering any possibility of our nation remaining a place to which people can IMMIGRATE with the assurance of it being a sanctuary that is a better place from which they have come.
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tishi 05/04/2010 10:08:00 PM
okay we let people come over from other countries as refugees when their nation is in termoil.
I think it is now time to let these innocent mexicans come ovcer as refugees to the US as other citizens of other nations have for years.
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Juarez Born American Citizen 05/04/2010 3:23:00 PM
To all you ignorant people. Maybe instead if worring about us Mexicans, you should worry about these Middle Eastern people who are trying to blow shit up in this country. Unless you guys want another 9/11. Look at the facts because this shit is happening every day. When do you hear about Mexicans terrorizing the U.S. We aren't planting bombs in buildings or trying to kill people. We just come to this country for a better opportunity.
F.Y.I, this country is made up of IMMIGRANTS because the ONLY people that were here were "Native Americans." We all came here as immigrants whether it was recent or when this country was started.
Instead of talking all this nonsense look at your facts then talk all the shit you want.
Unless you're Native American you should shut your mouth because you are ALL immigrants too. :)
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Kelly 05/04/2010 3:18:00 AM
Sandra - what a brilliant idea - then clowns like you can turn this country into another 3rd world nation.
The 'editor' needs to get a clue - just like you.
Something needs to be done, period. Mexico has major problems and they're becoming the United States problems through inaction.
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Chris 05/04/2010 1:06:00 AM
Excellent article. There is no wonder that the Mexican people want to escape. Much of the same can be said of other areas bordering the U.S., especially Arizona. It is a war zone in places like Nogales, complete with hand grenades and AK-47's. Can you now understand why the American people no longer want this violence imported here? We have all been affected by it. Arizona cannot dictate drug policy, but they have a right to protect their domain from invaders. Unfortunately, decent (though illegal) Mexicans will get caught up. Even in the little towns throughout Colorado we see the by-products of drugs and illegal immigration.
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chris 05/04/2010 12:46:00 AM
Uhhhh this article is about the violence in juarez not the new AZ law.
That being said, I will say this (again):
Legalize it!
Seriously though that would really cut down the violence. It's like alcohol during Prohibition. Legalizing cannabis takes ALL the cannabis money away from the cartels, so they will not have that to fight over.
Just one very good reason of many why cannabis should be legal.
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Ken K 05/03/2010 11:01:00 PM
Wish you actually could read the bill that you are attacking. The Bill does not state that "Arizona, ground zero for the so-called immigration problem in America, has passed a law requiring the police to stop anyone they think might be here illegally and force production of proof of citizenship" to quote you.
Specifically, the bill states that if someone is detained as part of the normal course of police business their Citizenship can be confirmed via the US Government. This means if you get pulled over for a traffic violation and you have no ID, don't speak English (regardless of your color or language), and are overall acting suspicous then the Police can check with the Feds to see if you are illegal.
Nothing wrong with this. It DOES NOT mean that everyone here legally or illegally will be challenged on the streets.
This is only required since the FEDS do not uphold their legally sworn duties to defend our borders against invasion and lawless immigrants. If you want to come to America there's a process! Follow it and stop wasting our resources!
And to you Mr. Author. Get a clue about things you bash. Typical Moronical "journalist" in America. WTF
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Sergio Camacho 05/03/2010 10:51:00 PM
It is sad how the drug cartels,corruption, and fear have taken a hold on Juarez. Juarez three years ago was a fun loving historic city were Americans would cross the border to party and have a good time. Now almost no one crosses into Juarez unless the need is there. I can only speculate that the government is involved in this crisis. How can more then 5000 homicides occur and not many have been arrested. More then 1200 bars, restaurants, and nightclubs have been shut down because of the violence there. Do the Juarez citizens have no say in what happens in there city?? Juarez has always been a drug city, a sin city, but never to this level. Three year ago the cartels did kill members from their gangs, but almost always respected the lives of women and children. It is plain to see that there is no more respect amongst killers.
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Jorge Herrera 05/03/2010 4:51:00 PM
To Mr. Roger, after reading your post I actually got the giggles. Not because I agree with what you say but of learning about your wife. Have you ever thought about why she married you? Have you thought maybe so she could get her citizenship? I have dealt with guys like you at my work for awhile now and for some reason though these "wives" decide to go ahead and speak their disapproval about these illegals and how we should send them back, round them up, I came here legally, etc.etc.etc. Uh...no...why not try to get citizenship the way these "illegals" have so they could see why they just go ahead and just do it without papers. You think getting your citizenship just by marrying an American is an honest and "legal" way of doing it? the reason these people do it illegally is for the screwed up and corrupt way the INS works. If they wouldn't take some much f-ing time, screw paperwork up and still charge you a ridiculous high amount to just milk the whole process and get money from you, this wouldn't be happening. That is why they do this. I agree with sending illegals back, but the ones that are here mooching off the people who work, who don't do a dam thing and just sit on their asses, and the ones who have a criminal record. Other then that leave the honest hard-working ones the F@ck alone. And I don't want to hear "oh well that's all of them" because you know dam sure it ain't true. Remember, it was you guys who came here on a boat... we were already here waiting for you.
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John 05/03/2010 4:20:00 PM
You are right - The editor wrote the first few paragraphs preceding the article. But - if this is your managers view of the world where you work, find another boss/job. Susana Hayward are you listening? I think most people that are attempting to read your article can't get past the editors ignorance ie: "a law requiring the police to stop anyone" - not true, "President Obama dutifully responded" - another joke, Pres. Bush tried long before this clown,
To the editor: Obviously YOU have not read the Arizona law. There is a recognizable border now between the U.S. and Mexico as well as Canada - respect it. Arizona is pushing for a comprehensive immigration bill, something no civilization had done in the past including the people preceding the Mexicans.
Get with the 21st century and put down your drug smuggling crack pipe Mr. no-name editor.
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Devon 05/03/2010 3:30:00 PM
Um, Yea. Can someone tell me again why we would want this type of violence and criminal activity in the USA? Keep it South of the border. If there is any question as to why Arizona is leading the front on sending the ILLEGAL people back to where they belong, just read this story. Illegal is illegal. If you can't respect the laws of this nation go home.....
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Roger 05/03/2010 1:06:00 PM
My wife has brown skin, and she is an immigrant, but she's not worried about the new law. You know why....because she is a legal immigrant, and she didn't break any laws to get here. In fact she is for the new law, because she loves this country and the opportunities that it has provided. Not only that she swore an oath when she became a citizen to live by and defend the laws of this country. The police in Tucson also have brown skin, and black skin, and they are not going to go around pulling over every person just because they have brown skin. The problem is stories like this are political and meant to stir up anger in the hispanic community, to drive hispanics to vote democrate. My wife is a school teacher on the south side of Tucson, and one of her students told her he beat up a white student because of the new Mexican law. Susan Hayward you are the racist for even bringing up the word brown skin, because there is not one word about skin color in the law. Please do us all favor and go find a new life skill!!!
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Robert Cassidy 05/03/2010 10:27:00 AM
The post of Todd Eads is patently absurd ..US forces are only in other countries because they have been invited by the host government..The rants about ""profiling Mexican Americans " is totally meritless ....Except for left wing radical airheads , the majority of the legitimate US population is vehemently opposed to the ongoing invasion .....and demands drastic action . Arizona leads the way .Any politician who opposes the decent majority will be blown away on the next election ....The time for the USA to start kicking ass is long overdue .
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Chris 05/03/2010 7:40:00 AM
I have an easy solution to dwindle the drug violence...
LEGALIZE IT
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suck it bitch!!!! 05/03/2010 2:37:00 AM
fuck el trasho n dat garbage azz whore town.....juarez!!!!!! piece of shit scandaless people over there can suck a dick!!!!!! fuck mexico n central america!!!!
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marblemason1 05/03/2010 2:26:00 AM
I am soooo tired of the race card being played. The Democrats know that the only hope they have to stay in power is to legalize the 12 million plus Illegals in the Country. Do you think any of them will vote Republican???
One would be well served reading the actual law instead of listening to the open border groups. To call it racist is ludicrous. No cop is going to walk up to anyone and out of the blue demand to see papers. Although if the shoe was on the other foot and I was in Mexico that would certainly be my reality.
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Debra 05/03/2010 12:49:00 AM
It was the Editor who brought in the Arizona bill into this picture, not Susana Hayward. The actual article is in regards to the violence taking place in much of Mexico and some U.S. border towns; in particular Cd. Juarez. The violence that has erupted since Calderon declared war on drug trafficking. Did anyone read the actual article?
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Dave 05/02/2010 10:16:00 PM
I didn’t have a problem with the actual article. It was the editor’s note (if I am reading it correctly, the first 6 paragraphs are from the editor, not Ms. Hayward) that I find to be an embarrassment even when judged by the low standards set by typical liberal hand-wringing journalistic hysteria. I am surprised that the editor did not include the probability for increased global warming when misrepresenting the Arizona law.
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kevin 05/02/2010 6:52:00 PM
just once I wish people would actually read a law they write a article about, contrary to the article the police can not just pull someone over and ask for i.d., only after you have been stopped for something else and then when they have suspicion that you are here illegally, then they can notify immigration to have you checked out... think about it, you pull a van over for speeding and there are 9 people inside and not one has a drivers lic. or i.d., duh think maybe they should be checked out?
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John 05/02/2010 6:08:00 PM
Westword doesn't know squat. Mexicans were only 2% of the population up unilt WWII. LA was 10% up unilt 1985. There weren't 145 million mexicans in the Us. Their territory? Why , because the kicked the Spanish out and assumed the land the Spaniards explored was theres. Mexicans never got by the Apache,Navojo and definitely not the Commanche. The spanish never got by the Commanche. Should have let the japs take Mexico. Westword hates white people and they hate this land. YOU LIE like the commies you are.
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joe 05/02/2010 4:21:00 PM
LISTEN UP WHITE PEOPLE DID YOU NOT READ THE BEGINNING OF THE ARTICLE. THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY USED TO BELONG TO MEXICO IDIOTS! THIS GREAT LAND USED TO BELONG TO NATIVES AND THEN MEXICANS CAME ALONG TO POPULATE THE SOUTHWEST! IF U WHITES DONT LIKE IT MAYBE YOU WE SHIP U ACROSS THE ATLANTIC BACK ALSO! I AM TIRED OF HEARING WHITE PEOPLE SAY THAT THE COPS IN AZ WILL STOP EUROPEAN PEOPLE ALSO! DONT YOU KNOW EUROPEANS AND CANADIANS LOOK WHITE ALSO! DUH!THEN YOU HATE MEXICAN PEOPLE BUT YOU SURE LOVE THE FOOD AND CORONAS!
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Maggie 05/02/2010 6:18:00 AM
Your passports everyone. The law in Arizona is saying anyone can be an illegal not just Hispanics. So if you think just because you look European you will not be stopped you are wrong. Now, if you are European decent, show your passports because we the people of the United States are Americans not European. Further, why should cops do the work that is supposed to be done by homeland security. Stop the hate, start the love.
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Karino 05/02/2010 2:53:00 AM
I am tired of people throwing the immigration card with the issue of illegal immigrants. A century has passed and our society has thrived. Mexicans stop being punks start a revolution in your Mexico for change. Don't make the US and legal immigration your excuse not to improve your country. You don't learn English, yet you want to use US history as an excuse you have a right to be here. You need to leave. If you're illegal and using tax payers money for medical bills, making too many babies for tax payers to pay for welfare it is a crime, not paying taxes, you NEED to LEave. The reality is Calderon is a rich elite and feels all migrants should leave their country. Let the elite and rich continue to thrive. I smell revolution and the illegals here need to fight the battles in their country.
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Pat Wilke 05/02/2010 12:56:00 AM
Why is so hard for Police Officers to be able to do their jobs? This bill is a Federal Law, hats off to Governor Jan. I hope Minnesota will enact this law. Too much of our monies are going to support these Illegals. I don't care where they come from as long as they abide the Laws of our United States of America.
This obomonation is too much of a bunch of wimps to deal with this issue once and for all. After all without these Illegal votes this charlatan would not be destroying our country!!!
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keith 05/01/2010 11:51:00 PM
It seems to me that most of the people holding rallies protesting the Arizona Law, are the illegals themselves. Polls and blogs show that most Americans support tough laws on illegals. I say we give them all swimming lessons and point them south. I also hope that all states vote yes for these same kind of laws. That should sent a message to Washington and Mexico City.
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michael 05/01/2010 10:21:00 PM
to each his own, just leave that bs south of my countries borders, God bless America!
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John Smith 05/01/2010 10:13:00 PM
We should deport 'Susana' and her dumb ass for inciting a race riot. Where in the law does it say Arizona is targeting Mexicans? Illegal aliens can also be from Europe, Asia,
Russia..... Did 'Susana' take to many liberal arts classes for her journalism degree with emphasis on extreme emotion?
Why is it racism if an area of the country has 75% more people of one nationality to arrest 75% more people as illegal aliens? Susie it's statistics - you know that class you decided to pass on because it was 'too hard', logical and involved math. I'll bet you aced all your 'hug and share classes'.
Maybe police can ask occupants of the 18 passenger van, speeding away from police, crashing in to other cars and running red lights if they are here legally.
Susie - did you fail geography too? Maybe 'Susie' is the racist because her job depends on having a story to write about that involves 'brown' people.
It's entertaining how the Denver Public Schools are 'protesting Arizona' over this issue also. Could it be that DPS has a vested interest in teaching the 'little brown people too'?
How many jobs would DPS loose if Colorado checked for illegal aliens. Using the 'Susie' scenario - DPS is racist for embracing more 'brown' illegal aliens than other colored illegal aliens - for their own benefit of pay and employment.
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Chris 05/01/2010 8:36:00 PM
I am all for immigrants that are in the US legally to remain here. If you are here illegally it's time to back your belongings and head back home. We're tired of footing your medical bills and supporting you. If your country is a shit hole, then perhaps you should have a revolution. Remember, all of the Mexican citizens have allowed the drug trade to go on for years. They are now reaping what they have sowed for years.
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RD 05/01/2010 6:49:00 PM
Arizona is simply stating the obvious, if you are not here legally you are in violation. Do any of the legal citizens of our country get to ignore federal law without consequence? This is not an issue of racism, it is as plain as it can be, in black and white, a law.
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Sandra 05/01/2010 6:48:00 PM
Round up time huh? that's what should happen to all of european decent who came here illegally and murdered the true americans!!
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joel 05/01/2010 6:42:00 PM
President Obama should pass a National law of the same type.
Is robbing a bank a crime-yes.
Is entering this country illegally a crime-yes.
What is there left to understand? Nothing, it is not legal and must end now. What other way is there to do it? There is no other way because we have let things go to far. No more immigration at all, I say. Enough is enough.
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Todd Eads 05/01/2010 5:45:00 PM
I believe that this law Arizona passed is wrong. It reeks of racism. The message is this "They speak Spanish, they are all from Mexico, get them out of here." Truth is, all Spanish speaking people are NOT from Mexico. Plus, this law also indirectly targets Mexican-Americans, Spanish speakers or not.
I find it to be something that we are talking about our immigration problem we have with Mexico, but who is talking about closing down all of our military bases we have overseas, and bringing our solders home and respecting the sovereignty of other countries? Nobody. And if you think that the politicians of Mexico are bad, politicians of the United States seem to be oblivious to reality and could give a damn about the liberties of Americans or the Constitution. Maybe the root of the problem is not Mexico, but perhaps the United States. Does anybody ever think of that?
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R 05/01/2010 5:45:00 PM
Dear Susana Hayward, I would suggest that you get facts correct before reporting on an issue. As a former college instructor, you have earned an "F" for this article. The Arizona law does not state, "Arizona, ground zero for the so-called immigration problem in America, has passed a law requiring the police to stop anyone they think might be here illegally and force production of proof of citizenship." What the law does state is that when a person (or persons) are pulled-over and/or apprehended for some type of illegal action (i.e. traffic violation, theft, etc., etc.) law enforcement has legal authority to ask for documentation pertaining to one's legal immigration status. What that means is that if I am pulled over for speeding, the office has the right to ask for my driver's license, car registration, insurance, etc., to make sure that I am in this country legally. Additionally, the law states that Arizona WILL enforce legal immigration (laws ALREADY mandated) - something that the Federal Government has chosen not to do for some time. There is nothing new about this legislation - there is just something new about Arizona making the decision to NOT turn it's back on the fact that people are not in this country legally - they are already ILLEGAL (thus the term). Your editor should reprimand you for totally falsifying your report.
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steven west 05/01/2010 10:29:00 AM
So sick of left wing propaganda. When in the hell is Mexico going to ever take any responsibility for this problem instead of always trying to blame the U.S. for the immigration problem? Is Mexico's President on someones payroll? I know I would never be allowed to enter Mexico illegally. Do you want to discuss this?
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taji 05/01/2010 4:40:00 AM
As you said,"What part of “illegal” don’t you understand?". This is not about immigration it is about not supporting exsisting laws. It is a crime to enter all country without going through adminstrative process. When some laws exsist and are not enforced all laws are at risk. President Felipe Calderón's poor leadership is clear his actions are in favor of the elite-- purge Mexico of the poor. Remember the Cuban boat lift? Or how does Mr. Calderon deal with illeagles on Mexico's southern border?
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joe 05/01/2010 1:22:00 AM
Round up time! send them back! produce papers or go back to mexico!. i hope Colorado passes this law as well!.