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Claytoaj 02/19/2012 10:07:00 PM
I can't believe she was (is?) getting billed for her kids' foster care when each one of them was the product of rape - which could have been prevented by the childcare system.
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Rayne Roman2 12/09/2011 4:00:00 PM
Your a idiot! After everything shes been through you reallythink shes not going to make mistakes? She could be doing so much worse than she is now, she could of kept her kids and did what her mother did, leave them with a stranger who abuses them! But she didnt she gave them up hopefully to better there situation. Dont be so narrow minded.
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09/26/2011 9:13:00 PM
This story is so sad and unfortunately happens too often and people that suspect child abuse NEED TO REPORT IT!! DSS does not just swoop in and remove children - they do a complete investigation. The thing people don't realize is that as adults these victims are very messed up for the rest of their life and the cycle continues. It's just what happens when this type of long term abuse happens. Serious long term counseling is needed to give these people any chance at having a happy, successful life and not repeating the cycle. I pray for these people and we all should. Please Will & Kristin, if you are reading this let us know if there is some way we can help you financially or otherwise. All my best.
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Derp. 09/26/2011 8:49:00 PM
OBVIOUSLY, you don't quiet understand her story. She couldn't provide for them at the time, dumbass. Kristen had her mind in the right place; she wanted the kids to have a good life. She isn't "repeating the story," because the kids were adopted, and if you know something about adoption, you have to file multiple papers to even be allowed to adopt a child. Therefore, the child combviously would have a better life.
Along with that, you can't blame her for wanting to have a family of her own. She wasn't "sleeping around," either, she isn't a whore. Kristen can't help the fact that she was raped and had four kids. She gave them away a time when she couldn't take care of them. Either way, she wants to have a better life than what she knew. That requires starting over, from a certain perspective.
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Hhfkjfisldk 08/03/2011 4:32:00 AM
you are the BIGGEST fucking idiot ever.
She did what was best for those kids, and if you read in Glamour August 2011 issue, you would see how the kids all have good families.
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Idgjaig 07/25/2011 5:43:00 AM
fuck u
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KM 07/23/2011 1:50:00 PM
How shallow can some of our society be to write that she is an idiot. Those of you that write that probably would be perfect employees for the Dept of Human Services! That's why so many children never get found because of truly careless souls that have never been through a hard life and take jobs that don't mean anything to them but a paycheck.. I wish Kristen the best, along with all her children!!!! AND SHE IS NOT AN IDIOT, she is a damaged soul looking to find her place in life and heal. and none of it is her fault.
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Beautifvlxsin 07/20/2011 8:29:00 PM
You really are a idiot.
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ly 07/16/2011 11:33:00 AM
ur an idiot
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Irie Princess 07/14/2011 11:45:00 PM
poor Kristen and Will...they were living a true hell. It is hard to believe that things like this actually happen and worse that cops and social services don't do the work that they should do to find out about these type of situations and do something to stop it....
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Cris 07/14/2011 7:50:00 AM
k i get she is going through alot because of everything that happen to her.... but yet she hasnt learned anything she having another baby rather than taking care of the ones she already has. she is repeating the story letting her children go....in my opinion she is being a selfish idiot going to have another child into this world when she can even handle her other childen....girl get sum help and stop sleeping around.
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Aimeelhardin 07/04/2011 12:19:00 PM
I completely agree with your thoughtful post. How dare anyone judge or make comments when probably not one of us here posting has been through any experience like Kristen's. It's amazing she's not in a mental ward and that she's able to do as well as she's doing with what little support she has. Please- the very least you can do is pray for her and her children. No doubt she's doing the best she can and needs help- not criticism!
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Brandi 10/08/2010 1:32:00 AM
I think that she gave up her children because she couldn't handle *4* all under the age of 7 and how could she choose just 1 or 2 out of the 4 and give the rest up? I don't doubt that she loves her children despite the circumstances of how they came to be. I believe relinquishing her parental rights was the hardest thing she had to go through and we all know she's went through some pretty bad stuff. She has done what was right for her children, she got them out of that house and now hopefully they will be adopted by a loving family.
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Paul Jefferies 09/30/2010 8:36:00 PM
An amazing story. It's incredible that this sort of thing can happen. Surely, the neighbours must have been aware of what was happening at that house? But, what I find the most astonishing is that the first I heard about is was when I read the Westword article. Why on earth was a story such as this not headline news for weeks?
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Jennifer 09/24/2010 2:40:00 AM
I am floored at the people judging this poor young lady. My own story is so very similar to hers yet very different. I was abused by a family member (thankfully it did not result in any pregnancies). Only difference is I was told to go home and get along with the perp. WTH?!?!?!?!
My story continues on and my four children are not lucky enough to have gotten a new life. One was killed in foster care and two more died in an accidental fire. The last one was taken from me and was given a horrid life to live because of another woman's greed. I waited and waited to have another child and eventually did. Am I any better because I waited?
Who are we to judge Kristen? My hope for her and her living children is for a happy life. I hope the adoptive families are truthful to the children (at an appropriate age level of course) so they know their mom did the best thing for them. I hope they understand that she did the best thing she could have ever done. I hope the state gets their crap together and does not deny these children knowledge of each other. I hope Kristen finds happiness and peace and that she and her new partner can create a wonderful life for the child growing inside her.
Do I expect any less from the state (any state)? Nope. This is par for the course.
Oh and for those who want to tear me apart, I have broad shoulders. Do it to me and leave this scared young woman ALONE!
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nick 09/22/2010 10:35:00 PM
since I know Calhoun has lied in the past, I dont trust any of this story to be true.
sure some of it must be but with Calhoun's flair for hyperbole...!
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Sally 09/22/2010 3:32:00 AM
Kristen makes me cry. SHE still has hope and goes forward! How can I think my life sucks or get down? NOTHING bad has happened to me, compared to her!! The fact that she can still have hope inspires me. I am so grateful that she has the courage and grace to tell her story.
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sheila 09/18/2010 6:53:00 AM
JanX, are you telling all of us, that you lived right across the street from these "people", for (8) eight years and you saw all the abuse, and do not tell me you didn't because that would be bulls**t, and you did absolutely nothing about it. Nothing? How in Gods name or even human decency do YOU sleep at night? I do not believe you should be responding about something as trivial as a race issue at this point. She
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Chris 09/16/2010 4:26:00 AM
Gimme a fuckin break, Jenna. A "normal adult step"? A normal adult step would be going to school, dealing with her past and the trauma associated with it (bringing another child into the world when she's obviously not capable is NOT part of healing), learning to take care of herself and get her life on track, having a solid relationship with someone (maybe get married, or is that too old-fashioned?) and THEN thinking about having more kids. So, no, your premise about "if this was a 23 year old college student" is bullshit. I would care, because statistically that hypothetical 23 year old, as well as Kristen, will be raising these kids in poverty and on lifetime government assistance.
Unlike you, Jenna, maybe we should also give a damn about the 4 kids that she just gave up...or do they mean nothing? Growing up under shitty circumstances doesn't give you a lifetime pass to make poor choices, especially when there are children involved.
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stephanie 09/15/2010 11:36:00 PM
it amazes me to read this story and see the cycle of abuse continue. First Kristen's mother, then those *monsters the Eric Torrez and family, the state of Colorado, now all of the people who are reading this and judging the poor woman for having another child. She obviously has not been allowed an appropriate childhood, adolescence and young adulthood and the fact that she has chosen college, a normal healthy relationship and chosen life and healing should be miraculous to anyone who had read what this brave and tragic young woman had been through. Kudos to you Kristen and Thank you for sharing her heartrending story Patricia!
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Angie Ungs 09/15/2010 8:25:00 PM
I really have no words for how disturbing this is. On SO many levels. What in the world is wrong with our society in that we continue to allow this to happen to innocent children? The stories are everywhere... each more hideous and horrifying than the next. And it doesn't matter what state you live in, you can find the obvious and pathetic failures of DHS in every case reported by the media. And just imagine what we are not being told... unfortunately this is the tip of the iceburg.
Alex Summers- though I am not a survivor of abuse, nor did I grow up in the foster care system, I do share your passion and dedication to helping protect the innocent children and prevent the dispicable things that were allowed to happen to Kristen for YEARS and YEARS with no intervention. ALL OF US SHOULD FIGHT for a TOTAL overhaul of this pathetic and ineffective system. And I'm tired of the demand for tougher consequences and sentences. Sure, I'd love nothing more than to see the perpetrators of these types of crimes against children hanged. But we need to focus on PREVENTION. Let's be pro-active! Let's not wait until a child is raped, beated, tortured, or murdered and then punish. As a society we are too re-active.
Let's change the standards we have for parents, provide resources for those in need, raise the bar for foster care, remove children more immediately and permanently to prevent systematic abuse. Provide free, annonymous, and accessible alternatives for pregnant teens. Anyone registered on the sex offender list should be forced to have a vascetomy! We are willing to pay for an unending war that has done nothing to improve our security or quality of life, yet when people want taxes to go towards human services they have a hissy fit. Where are our priorities??? We need to protect the most precious and innocent citizens of the human race with every ounce of our beings... the children living right next door!
I hope this story is a catalyst for those who read it to actively join the fight prevent these horrors. Take a moment and google some of these children and read the stories. If you do not become enraged, ill, depressed, horrified, or experience another profound emotion and resolve to fight to make a change, then you are part of the problem as well. Look for: Baby Brianna Lopez, Dominick Calhoun, Baby Peter, Kelsey Briggs... Once you start looking and acknowledging that this is an epidemic, you will be shocked at the number of cases you notice, that would have just went in one ear and out the other. Facebook has a groun Parents Against Child Abuse that posts cases, legislature, personal stories, connects survivors and those needing relief and help, with those who want to help and have resouces. If you feel inclined in any way to help, I'd say it's a good place to start.
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JanX 09/15/2010 6:36:00 PM
Let me respond to Butch about "MEXICANS." The Torrezes lived in house that was purchased by the grandfather in 1950. The house was paid off. Not one person living in that house could speak Spanish. I should know. I lived across the street from them for 8 years.
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Jenna 09/15/2010 6:20:00 PM
I am shocked that anyone would judge Kristen for taking a normal, adult step in her life. If the story began with a pregnant 23 year old college student, no one would judge her. Yes, she did have to give up custody of 4 older kids in order to move forward with her life. That was her choice and anyone who has not been in her shoes should be making comments about what is right or wrong for her.
I personally cannot imagine what it is like for Kristen to sit back see all of these people making nasty comments about her parenting ability and her decision to raise one child. One child with a father who loves her and that child.
How is judging her and making her feel like SHE has done something wrong in making a decision only she can make doing anything to help her? It's quite sad that now that she has managed to etch out a life for herself she is now the subject of ridicule and judgement for sharing her story.
Although readers, you may not approve, maybe you should keep silent until you fully understand the scope of difficulty she has dealt with and rose from in her life. I don't know Kristen, but I certainly won't judge her for wanting a normal life after all she has been through.
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patricia calhoun 09/15/2010 4:04:00 PM
I went to court with Kristen yesterday; she voluntarily relinquished her parental rights so that her four children could be adopted. I'll have an update in next week's paper -- including how people can help Kristen.
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Margaret Waldram 09/15/2010 3:42:00 AM
This poor woman deserves to have all bills due for foster care for her children rescinded. The very agency and state which are demanding payment are the guilty of having allowed those children to have been conceived and born without ever seriously attempting to interview Kristen in an environment where she could have spoken without fear. The agency and state are guilty of neglect, and therefore forfeit all supposed rights to collect the bills which result from the terrible neglect of their--the agency and the state--responsibility to this young woman to protect her from such an existence under the domination of such evil people.
The state OWES her a free education as well as the needed counseling to be able to really deal with life. And the state also owes her twin brother and her children the counseling they will also need. To expect any of them to pay the services they will need to face life is absurd beyond belief.
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Courteney 09/15/2010 2:36:00 AM
SOOO SAD I CRIED ALL THE WAY! I want to meet her now. I need to talk to her. :[
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Visha 09/14/2010 6:31:00 AM
Reading this story ,I was in shock and disbielive. The social services faild her teribly,the police the doctors everybody.How the hell now the state has the guts to charge this poor woman ? is unbielivable.Should the state pay her instead for batreying her? The state of california paid the kidnapped gril $20 mil ,but what wrong in colorado? She received charges instead ,because she has nobody to help her? Wake up colorado thats a crime what happened to this gril. Now she got judged because she is pregnet again.Hm whos fault is that? Where are again the resourses to help.This gril never had a normal functioning ,loving family.How she supoused to know the values of life, and how to prevent things from happening? So instead of charging and judging just simply help.
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Kelly 09/14/2010 3:26:00 AM
You are a HERO..and your children will know that soon!!
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Carol 09/13/2010 8:35:00 PM
Kristen, you are entirely correct, you have Earned your Wings!! Gods Blessings on you and your children. Let's hope the publication of your story will begin the process for DHHS to correct the wrongs that were allowed to happen from their end. Enjoy every day of freedom from the monsters who tried to take your life away. YOUR determination kept that from happening. You Go, Girl!!
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Denise 09/13/2010 5:40:00 PM
I'm in awe of Kristen and Will (I'd like to hear more about how he's doing?) and I think letting her children go could be a good thing for everyone. My only concern is, who will look after them once they become wards of the State? Social Services can only do some much and a life in foster care can be a mixed blessing. So I ask ... Who will help Kristen, help her children??? I will! just let me know how I can be of service.
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Harusami 09/13/2010 4:37:00 AM
P.S. Patty Calhoun, you're one hell of a writer. Thank you for this.
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Harusami 09/13/2010 4:35:00 AM
It's been a long time since I've been so moved by a story in Westword. I had to read it in segments, digesting the horrors in little bits and then purging them. This girl is an incredible soul...I don't want to call her a "survivor"...I want her to see herself as the "hero" in her story, and to be that voice and inspiration for other abused kids out there one day. May she be embraced in healing love and light.
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simone 09/12/2010 7:35:00 PM
as a serial rape survivor it is imperative kristen gets treatment for post traumatic stress disorder. and maybe john hickenlooper needs to have a chat with ddhs. and kristen, safehouse denver has some programs that will do you a world of good. good luck.
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Mike Perkins 09/12/2010 6:34:00 PM
Almost unbelieveable except that it happens all to frequently in Colorado. I can't imagine how the City Attorney and our fine Mayor can sleep at night knowing this is going on and they do absolutely nothing to help this woman. Yes, she made some mistakes but put yourself in her situation. Would you have survived this horror? No you wouldn't so stop accusing the victim here. And you have the nerve to call yourself Christians. I'm sure god will agree with your hate and blame game.
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Butch 09/11/2010 3:53:00 PM
More Mexican violence towards women.
Vote Tancredo for a safer Colorado.
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Chris 09/11/2010 10:20:00 AM
So, yes or no...it's ok that Kristin gave up her 4 kids (because she couldn't take care of them) only to get pregnant shortly thereafter? We all have have choices to make.
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Kevin 09/11/2010 7:22:00 AM
I could not even begin to imagine the hell that Kristen Stillman endured for most of her life, and I was in awe of the fact that she still believes life is worth living and she is still willing to try to make what she can of it. What she went through would have ruined many, maybe most, of us. I was both moved and inspired by her story.
Then I read the paragraph near the end that begins, "And yes, Kristen is pregnant again."
Presumably by her "first boyfriend."
The horrors visited upon Kristin for most of her life were not hers to choose. Now she has choices.
Hope that first boyfriend sticks around, Kristen. Best of luck to you.
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laura 09/11/2010 6:26:00 AM
I just want to say that I could not imagine going threw this I was molested when I was little but to have to look at children from the man would be hard..... All I have to say is KEEP YOUR HEAD UP AND THE LORD WILL DO THE REST
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Jake 09/11/2010 4:55:00 AM
According to the article, the hospital filed a report, one of many ignored by Human Services. When the police and DA found out what was happening, we finally saw action. Sounds like the City Attorney is the one trying to get money from her.
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lee 09/11/2010 4:26:00 AM
Since Denver is a city and county, the errors made that contributed to these horrors include the DA, police,city attorney, human services,hospitals and DPS. What 14 year old victim of physical and sexual abuse, who has just given birth and threatened, is going to disclose that she is being raped by a monster? Travesty.
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Jake 09/11/2010 2:38:00 AM
What a ghastly childhood with a horrible mutant family. Sounds like the Denver District Attorney's office kicked some serious butt in trial! The police did good work, too. Good news on the law enforcement front.
Seems to me Mayor Hickenlooper has some explaining to do.
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Tom Carllon 09/11/2010 1:45:00 AM
Patricia Calhoun wrote an unbelievably compelling story of Kristen Stillman’s hell-on-earth life. The article is not for skimming. I was forced several times to put the article down for a few moments and compose my inner thoughts and emotions and reflect on man’s continuing inhumanity to man, and woman. Well done, Ms. Calhoun.
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patricia calhoun 09/10/2010 5:01:00 PM
thanks for all your comments, some of which I might like to include in our print edition; I'll be in touch on that. (Or feel free to send letters for publication to me at patricia.calhoun@westword.com.)
I will post an update on Kristen after the hearing next week.
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juan manos 09/10/2010 4:33:00 PM
As this article illustrates, the state of Colorado's social services department has let victims fall through the cracks in the system, then punishes the victim, all according to statute. How convenient for the state to back charge poor Ms. Stillman for everything! All I can say to the state of Colorado is " Shame on you!" It seems that that state is more interested in collecting fees and fines than it is in protecting the rights of it's citizens. This story just confirms that idea.
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Kim 09/10/2010 5:54:00 AM
Isn't this what Victims's Compensation is for? She IS a victim. How can she be responsible, billable, or liable for the hospital bills? Wasn't she under age, minor? What about her Mother? Yes, she is in prison, yet shouldn't she be the one paying the bills here? This poor thing. What is wrong with our society if we all don't stand up on this one and CHANGE it???
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Renee 09/10/2010 5:46:00 AM
I cannot believe the audacity of some people. I don't understand how any human being could read Kristin's story and then want to comment regarding birth control! OMG! I agree with the others, shame on our system which took her driver's license due to unpaid child support. Obviously those in that department either are not updated on cases, or have any information regarding them, or just don't read the files. How else could they do this? As far as being billed for foster care? I have no words...how is it ads can be placed in local classifieds for foster care parents? Has anyone seen the application for this? It's the most basic thing ever, do they do background & drug checks?
Please tell me there is an attorney out there that will contact her and take care of her pro bono. And/or folks who are well off financially who donate regularly....donate your $$ to Kristin for life....bills.....home.....her. I'm so sorry you had to endure such Kristin. I have no doubt you will persevere. God bless you and be with you and may he smile upon you.
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Maggie 09/10/2010 4:58:00 AM
Chris and Lyn - while I agree with you that Kristin is obviously unprepared to raise another child I would like to offer a slightly different perspective. As mentally healthy (or mostly mentally healthy) adults we are able to see our limitations. Hopefully we've been lucky enough to come from families that provide a level of nurturance and unconditional love that provided a sense of family without necessarily having offspring of our own. For someone like Kristin, who doesn't have that type of family unit, it's not surprising that she would go about creating one the only way she knows how: by having babies. Having babies gives her the hope of creating a family that she longed for. So while I don't condone it I think I can kind of understand it. Anyway, I mean no disrespect and I hope I convey that but I do hope my perspective gives a little pause into judging her choices.
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Lee 09/10/2010 4:56:00 AM
I really doubt that Linda and Eric educated Kristen about birth control, don't you? And, someone whose little income is being hijacked by the state to repay foster care monies is not likely to prioritize her few funds towards birth control either, is she? And, a person whose development was interrupted at age 12 to be raped and violated probably needs to experience some "normal" relationships, doesn't she? "People who live in glass houses...."
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Chris 09/10/2010 4:04:00 AM
Lyn-
I completely agree and am a little surprised you're the first to mention that. That takes nothing away from what this woman endured and the strength it took to get where she is, but seriously? She freely admits, and understandably, that she couldn't take care of 4 kids, but how could she not have the presence of mind to take precautions not to bring another one into the world?
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Lyn 09/10/2010 3:46:00 AM
I was horrified as I read your article about the abuse suffered by Kristin and her brother. I was actually trying to think of a way that I could help her out with her expenses, that is until I got to the part about how she is pregnant with another baby. Now, I don't begrudge her for wanting to put the past behind her and build a new life but - seriously - the relinquishment of her other four children hasn't even been finalized yet. Now I just feel terribly sorry for those other children. Some day they will have to deal with growing up in the foster care system, the horrific circumstances of their birth, and the abuse that it seems at least two of them have already suffered. Now they will also have to reconcile with fact that their mother abandoned them to start a shiny, new family. I only hope that they find wonderful adoptive parents and can make their own peace.
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Laura 09/10/2010 3:06:00 AM
Kristen--thank you for telling your story. I know it will help others and will also help others too. Maybe at some point the DHS will be empowered to take ownership of this issue and help you instead of continuing to let you down. Westword did not mention the other DHS problems that lead to the resignation, under pressure, of Roxane White, who is now Hickenlooper's Chief of Staff.
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Kali Williams 09/10/2010 3:03:00 AM
Shes an angel in my eyes. I hope she writes her story. There is someone out there looking for a book that relates to their life. Bless this child and her children.
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Monica 09/10/2010 2:59:00 AM
Wow!Kristen, your story is intense. I didn't go thru what you did but I have a very sad story growing up. I am 32 with 5 children. I have raised each one and it was the hardest thing ever! But I couldn't have done it without JESUS! he was my ROCK, my strong tower! I have to say If you don't already know who Jesus is, Please I am begging Find out ASAP! and except him as your LORD AND SAVIOR! He loves you and He will help you to move forward and He will be your ROCK and strong tower. He wants you to know Him! I am sorry that you had to live this life. But God has a plan for you you just have to seek Him and he will show you.And we have to be positive about these things and look at as it will make you STRONG! And I am sure you are already!! I will pray for you Kristen and your children. I am proud of you for being so strong and standing up to the ones that mistreated you that is brave! God Bless you and your family! Remember Jesus Loves you.
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Lee 09/09/2010 8:11:00 PM
In Colorado there is no such thing as an open adoption and any knowledge by bio parents of adoptive children is up to the adoptive parents. Kristen, your story has many avenues for you to help educate people and facilitate change in the outdated systems that exist. The best to you and your future!
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Patty 09/09/2010 7:27:00 PM
Kristine, if you can, do an open adoption so you can still know who & where your children are. It will still be painful but would probably be best for them. And reassuring for you. Good luck with the new baby. You've learned so much, you'll be a Good Mom. You ARE being a good Mom, the best, really - doing what is best for your children. You didn't ask for any of this. You've coped admirably with what life has thrown you. And hey, for your sake: maybe permanent birth control ??
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Debbie 09/09/2010 5:19:00 AM
Has Kristen contacted an attorney. She should consider suing the Denver Dept of Human Services for thier neglect in this case. How dare they bill her for foster care!!! An innocent girl and boy have lost thier childhood to unspeakable horrors. What is wrong with our society that we allowed this to happen. How could these horrors be overlooked by teachers, neighbors, social services? I don't get it. unbelievable.
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Jeanine Odom 09/09/2010 1:31:00 AM
What you endured is beyond belief and what you are doing now, for you children and to educate others should win you a Medal of Honor. God bless you. Keep on striving and achieving. Never give up! The Denver Department of Human Services, can hardly be called "Human" or doing anyone a "Service." They should be investigated, heads should roll, and they should be made to pay all the bills.
Perhaps Kristen should hire an attorney like Jaycee's family has done.
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Rebecca 09/09/2010 1:08:00 AM
Kristine, you are brave. You show your children how much you love them simply by realizing that you are not able to give them the life that you want them to have. I pray that you will find peace in the future and please continue to share your story so that others do not have to endure the same fate!
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Lauren 09/08/2010 8:52:00 PM
Kristin - You certainly have earned your wings. This is yet another example of the Denver Department of Human Services allowing this type of tragedy to unfold right beneath their noses. For them to come after you for the expenses involved with fostering the children is unexcusable and shows the dysfunctional state in which the Department continues to operate. Shame on them and their broken policies. Shame on them for letting you down for all of these years.
Take your story to the hospitals. Ask them for bill forgiveness. You deserve it.
I am proud of you and your efforts!
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Alex Summers 09/08/2010 8:43:00 PM
God bless Kristen. I don't know how she feels, but I know how I felt. I too was in foster care, and sexually abused terribly. Like myself, she will transform her pain in a way that will help others. It is sad that our laws fail to protect so many. Our children are the future, and must be protected at all cost. I work diligently with The Salvation Army to protect children from harm, and to make sure what happened to me never happens to any of the children in my sphere of influence. I will never quit, or give up until all children are safe from harm. That is my word, that is my bond, believe it!
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Laura 09/08/2010 8:05:00 PM
Kristine you are so brave! Thank you for sharing your story. I feel sick to my stomach that you suffered so terribly in your life and that your children have too. People who should have been helping you your whole life have let you down. What an amazing woman you are to be honest. The abuse you have suffered is unforgivable. Then as you are trying to take care of your family by getting and keeping a job you lose your licence because you can not pay the foster care bills. Shame on our system that does not look at your whole situation. You deserve help.
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Kelly 09/08/2010 7:55:00 PM
What a brave woman! Braver than most!