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Jayisanidiot 06/25/2011 8:46:00 AM
Get your facts straight..... that's a big lie about the sexual assault... u need to get a life and stop trying to ruin kids life.. if he got charged with felony than think about the fact how far will he get in life. Probably no college for him, no decent job which means he will be commiting other crimes to get by in life because of some idiot like u
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Laiana 06/25/2011 8:38:00 AM
Another idiot who will never have a kid and has his head stuck far up his ass.
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Arminbjelanovic 06/25/2011 8:27:00 AM
That's just dumb... hes a kid and every young child is amazed by fires and such... obviously there was no intention of any harm but people like you are the problem here because you would possible ruin kids bright future by charging him with an felony just for personal pleasures... American judicial system is screwed up and people who unintentionally set something on fire get more time in prison than repeat drug offenders and rapists .... shame on you
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CAMSHEEL 03/30/2011 7:18:00 PM
YOU KNOW WHAT HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING FOUND THE LIGHTER. LET HIM SIT IN JV HALL FOR A MONTH OR SO. I ALSO BLAM THE PARENTS FOR THIS.
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Bad 03/24/2011 2:43:00 AM
fucking lawyers....twits with authority are worse than little boys with fire. the damage, was due to the fire truck arrive so late....
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Eochaid 03/16/2011 3:41:00 PM
THEY GET THEIR JOLLYS PUSHNIG SMALL PEOPLE AROUND. IT IS PERVERTED!! These people in power are control FREAKS!! I truly belive they get a sexual charge out of making others suffer, they truly enjoy the power they have it makes them feel good about their truly rotten hearts.
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ILLNoiz Refugee 03/16/2011 3:25:00 AM
So this kid is burning down his own house? I'm sure his report cards aren't covering up the refrigerator. But on the off chance this kid isn't in special ed or has case worker telling him what a special piece of sunshine the baby jesus made him...lets get into it.
If the charge is Second Degree Arson then the burden of proof is on the Man to make it stick. This doesn't seem to be a case of a heavy handed DA or the justice system out to destroy a young life. To me this kid needs to learn, obviously the hard way, that irresponsible acts have consequences. Colorado needs more juvenile IMPACT bootcamp style programs like other states have adopted. Would be young felons receive the kick in the face that juveniles dont get. Self disciple, responsibility, and the action/consequences formula is reinforced. If someone takes time to provide these kids with a solid up bringing and structure most of this could have be avoided but if the parents fall down on the job the state/county owe it to society to give them a good start, and not holding a prison cell for them. Teach the desired behavior, address the deficiencies, take corrective actions. Works every time.
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Hidoneal 03/16/2011 2:18:00 AM
It seems to me the District Attorney's office is only interested in money and its ruthless reputation. Every conviction or adjudication reaps money by fines and requiring the person to pay for the "classes" or "diversion therapy", drug tests (even though there were no drugs involved in the crime) and to see the probation officers. Its a way to keep the money coming in.
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Krissicat 03/15/2011 10:50:00 PM
This is a pethetic abuse of power. Not only that, these kids will have a negative view of law enforcement and the judicial system the rest of their lives. I speak from experience, my grown son was chartged and convicted of "launching missiles" when he was 10 years old. He told the truth about throwing the dirt clods at a metal building with his friends to hear the neat sound. No one was injured and no property was damaged, yet he was charged after he was asked what happened and told the truth. Unfortunately I am the one who told him to tell the truth. This DA Iis the SIPA PT's Queen! How sad these charges will follow these boys the rest of their lives. Juvenile records may be sealed at 18, but law enforcement and the judicial system can still access them.
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jay 03/15/2011 8:30:00 PM
if the people who owned the condo were upside down in their loan this kid actually did them a favor.
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Guest 03/15/2011 7:13:00 PM
How come the volunteer fire fighter who accidentally started the fire in the foothills in Boulder last year didn't face any charges? That fire caused more damage (financially) then any fire in Colorado history. And he didn't face any charges? If we're going to be overly strict on punishment, fine, but doesn't it seem like there is a vast inconsistency of the law?
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Marblemason1 03/15/2011 1:23:00 PM
If these kids had burned down your house I bet you'd be singing a different tune.
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Willsayhi 03/14/2011 9:44:00 PM
Next this idiot prosecutor will want to send kids jaywalking to the electric chair. A classic example of how power will corrupt. These idiots should be accountable and face criminal action for destroying lives when it's not necessary. They actually enjoy it it seems. And to destroy a person's life just so she can gain political favor. This should be criminal.
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DK 03/14/2011 12:26:00 PM
This is typical if Colorado's heavy handed approach to dealing with enforcing rules and regulations. Justice is about seeking a fair resolution and weighing ALL evidence. The fact that Andew Steers wouldn't consider hearing all sides of this case shows why he has no business working for a DA's office. I agree with the last comment that he should be fired and jailed.
Unfortunately Colorado is a Communist state. That's how they run things here. Ever deal with a state park ranger? Most of them love lording it over park visitors, harrassing and nitpicking with their burdensom and endless list of regulations. If I'd had any idea of what this state was like I would have never moved here.
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Jay 03/13/2011 3:56:00 PM
Think about the victim and quit worrying about the thug kid! He was accused of sexual assault towards a girl just a week later. You people are killing me! Yes, innocent until proven guilty, but there were several witnesses and this was not the first time he was seen playing with fire. The life that was "ruined" was the condo owner. He/she will spend the next decade working to pay for the damage this monster did. Get a life and learn about personal responsibility!
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DownWithAuthoritarianCreeps 03/13/2011 3:54:00 PM
Andrew Steers needs to be fired and jailed.
"Guilty until Proven Innocent" - against a minor yet. What an absolute criminal jackass!
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03/13/2011 7:16:00 AM
THE DENVER AREA HAS ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THIS....GOING OVERBOARD MAKING ACCUSATIONS. D.A.s ARE TAUGHT IN LAWSCHOOL TO TRUMP UP EXAGGERATED CHARGES ON PEOPLE, SO IN THE END, THEY CAN GET YOU ON "SOMETHING." THAT MAKES THE D.A. LOOK GOOD...LIKE THEY ARE SUCH A "GREAT" PROSECUTOR.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT IS DOES NOT SEEK THE TRUTH IN OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM OR BRING JUSTICE. IT ONLY CONVICTS A LOT OF INNOCENT PEOPLE OR MALIGNS CASES UNTIL THERE IS LITTLE TRUTH IN THEM!
THIS IS NOT JUSTICE! THIS IS ABUSE!
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03/12/2011 10:41:00 PM
Jay,
I don't really want to be weighing in here, but if by "this kid" you mean Jacob Christenson, that's just incorrect. The fire is the only offense that has brought him to the attention of law enforcement. There was another boy involved in that fire, and I have no information on his juvenile record or lack of same. But I do believe you're confused, and making unfair and unfounded accusations about an 11-year-old boy in the process.
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My Opinion 03/12/2011 10:40:00 PM
Another over zealous socialist prosecutor ruining a kid's life before it gets a chance to get started. A word of advice Carol, don't have kids. DB
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Jay 03/12/2011 7:51:00 PM
Let me be more specific. I worked with hundreds of juveniles that made mistakes. Once I felt they felt from the heart that they had done wrong and understood the pain they caused others, I would have them write a letter of apology to the victims. You can't tell me that if he had done that and given it to the DA, that the letter would not have been passed on to the victim (not to mention that it would have improved his case). No, this thug and family want to take NO responsibility is this horrible act. Yes, I am a Juvenile Professional Counselor. That is why the hack job on the DA, and more importantly, the direct pressure put on the victim is a crime on top of a crime!
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Jay 03/12/2011 4:49:00 PM
And by the way, this kid was "allegedly" charged with sexual assault one week later.
Great kid! Instead of worrying about the "thug," let's worry about the victim. I know there was a restraining order, but that doesn't mean the kid or family could not have reached out. Instead, they have gone to the "joke" media, trying to put pressure on the victim to back down from justice! You people crack me up. Once again, lock up the little monster before he kills someone!
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Jay 03/12/2011 4:43:00 PM
And by the way, this kid was "allegedly" charged with sexual assault one week later.
Great kid!
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PS 03/12/2011 3:09:00 PM
Is this an elected or appointed position?
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LT 03/12/2011 10:29:00 AM
Wow fred, glad you payed attention while reading this article since it is about Carol Chambers, a DA not a judge. Who is a disgrace?
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fred 03/12/2011 7:07:00 AM
Pretty much sums up the justice system of today.
This judge is a disgrace, what recourse is there?
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tikita 03/12/2011 1:41:00 AM
Seriously the V? I can't believe there is people like you on this world. You sure don't have kids and if you do you sure are not part of their lives.
They are kids! They make mistakes. It was not intentional I am sure.
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Wolfer 03/12/2011 1:00:00 AM
This idiot is a discrace to justice. She can't seem to get enough of destroying peoples lives. We aren't talking about hardened killers and rapists.
We are talking about kids. Most kids end up playing with matches or fire sometime in their early lives. And most of us were lucky and didn't catch anything on fire. And yes they should be punished. But, charging them with felony arson? Prosecutors like her have sold their soul to make a name for themselves and could care less if someone is innocent or not. As long as they get the convictions. Thats why we have the highest incarceration rates in the entire world. And then we whine about the prisons being full and how expensive it is. People like her are one of the reasons this country is in such sad shape. So next time she gets hold of a jaywalker she will want the death penalty. I realize she is just trying to make a name for herself for future political aspirations but do you have to do itat children's expense.
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DmitriKarov 03/11/2011 9:07:00 PM
These kids should know better. I am a pyro, I burn stuff all the time. I burned stuff three days ago to honor those who died in the October Revolution, Czars, Bolsheviks, and citizens.
"HEY CHARLIE, LOOK AT THIS FIRE I MADE LOL, IMMA THROW IT INTO A DRY BUSH AND WALK OFF"
Even I know that dry brush fires occur more often than alive-wet plants getting dried and burnt by a fire.
They knew it would start a fire, they deserve the sentencing. THEY KNEW THAT FIRE BURNS STUFF.
Plus they were playing with fire in a public place.
--CHARGING THE PARENTS IS IDIOTIC--
By telling your children not to be religious, not to be gay, they usually turn out religious and gay. I've seen it happen plenty of times. When told not to play with fire, I use fire every day.
CHILDREN DO OR DO NOT LISTEN TO ADVICE, no-matter what you do, children will have different opinions.
I didn't, now I know how to operate handguns, cars, rifles, I am getting fluent in several languages, I am selling stuff to earn money.
You'd think people would know better... Don't break the law, or else good people will get you in prison.
I don't care if it is an, "Accidental" fire or an, "Accidental" murder when you shove a knife into someone. You know the law, don't break it.
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Ashleyrae6168 03/11/2011 5:27:00 PM
get fucked u stupid closed minded nazi.a kid a pos fuck u loser.......
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Marksp56 03/11/2011 4:11:00 PM
Welcome to our justice system. Most of these prosecutors have ambitions beyond their current positions, whether in the justice system or the political arena. Volume and convictions equal "perceived" competence, nobody looks at how much time and money these clowns waste just to make themselves look good! It is more prevelent in the junvinle system because many parents don't have the means to pay for a good laywer to take these cases to trial and call these bozo's bluff, kind of like corporate law!
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Scooby 03/11/2011 2:18:00 PM
There is no justice system now days the prosecutors dont listen to anyone they just look for another conviction under their belt to make them look all good and bad to earn a brownie medal thats all I do feel sorry for half of thease kids and Aldults because they dont get a fair trail.
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03/11/2011 1:29:00 PM
Jay,
As a Juvenile Professional Counselor, you may be familiar with the term "restraining order." A restraining order was imposed in this case, preventing Jacob from having any contact with the condo owner. As reported in my initial story on this fire, the justice system has prevented any communication between the firesetters and their victim, so the lack of apology at this point hardly justifies your description of Jacob as a "thug boy" and a "monster." Now that the case has finally gone to diversion, it's possible that the situation can focus on the financial and emotional impact this has had on the victim and the mediation talks over restitution rather than using criminal justice resources to lock up a couple of 11-year-olds, which doesn't do anything in practical terms to assist the homeowner.
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The V 03/11/2011 1:17:00 PM
These worthless parents need to acountable for their rotten kids behavior. They raise these brats and don't dicipline them when they should. That's why these kids grow up to be animals on society. They parents need to be charged along with their POS kids !!!!!!!
Have a nice day :)
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erik 03/11/2011 12:35:00 PM
then again i also watched 2 ada's almost get into a fist fight in front of my father and i over a THEFT case when i was 17 because the ada i met with wanted to give me and my friends 20 hours of community service plus a $500 fine for taking 4 traffic cones from an abandoned construction site, while the other ada wanted to drop the case completely because a) no one (construction company, town of parker, etc) would claim the cones as theirs; so we didnt actually steal from anyone b) after meeting with my friend's parent discovered that we in fact were not hooligans out to destroy society but stupid, bored teenagers that were going to be disciplined far worse than the courts because we had now gotten our parents in trouble. what ever happened to parents taking responsibility for their kids? I think the government steps in a little too quickly these days
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erik 03/11/2011 12:24:00 PM
what ever happened until guilty until proven innocent? I thought it was the responsibility of the state to prove guilt; not that of the charged to prove their innocence. but then again i also thought cops were supposed to "protect and serve", not "harass and bill" but thus far in my lifetime they have only succeeded in the ladder. especially in our current state of economic affairs.
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Jroc 03/11/2011 2:46:00 AM
Can't wait till the DA's kid f%*#s up and we see what strings she and her political cronies pull. She will really make a career move with this one......after all career moves and revenue generators are all that are important. Oh yes, shows how impermanent THINGS are.
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03/10/2011 11:20:00 PM
Dumb kid knows how to start a fire??? Dumb kid and dumb parents should pay for it.
At 11 you know what is real and what fire can do...this isn't a Bambi movie. It's real life. Pay up.
Oh they are poor? Take their tax returns..don't they do that to to dads that don't pay child support? or Garnish the kids parents pay, to pay for the burnt condo.
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Jay 03/10/2011 9:40:00 PM
This article is a joke! I am a friend of the person that had the condo burned. This person works two jobs: one as a special needs assistant teacher and another job I will not mention to protect his/her identity. He/she worked his/her butt off to buy this condo. He/she has had to live away from the condo for over a year. He/she is out of pocket over $30,000 of what the insurance would not recover. He/she lost lifetime items of great memories. He/she has NEVER received any apology from the boy or family for destroying his/her life!!! And everyone is crying for this thug boy? Felony is not enough for this monster. He should be forced to spend jail time. The family is "suppose" to pay restitution, but they are a poverty family and will very likely NEVER pay back the damages. People, don't forget the true victim in this event! And, by the way, I have been a Juvenile Professional Counselor for over 10 years. I am not bias on this one. Learn responsibility!
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Tmmyr 03/10/2011 7:39:00 PM
Story of his life. He probably doesnt know what a felony does to a person. Goes through highschool and probably through college. Get an interview, but oh no, has a felony. Trys and trys but felony holding him back. Turns to crime later on, and ends in multiple times in jail. Thanks DA, sounds like a fine job you did. Can we bring on the zombies, need to kill without guilt
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Guest 03/10/2011 5:49:00 PM
If an 11 year old can't get fair treatment, makes one wonder how they are treating the adults that end up in the system.
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Mpp 03/10/2011 2:34:00 PM
That is sick, our whole judicial system is based on innocence until proven guilty, and to treat a child like a repeat offender is just wrong. Do these jerks get a pay bonus for every life they ruin?
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Bdurrett 03/10/2011 8:20:00 AM
It sounds to me as if the DA's office has forgotten the major axiom of US law - "Innocent until PROVEN guilty beyond a resonable doubt." When evidence proving innocence is ignored, there is a travesty of justice occuring. The DA's office needs to be taken to court themselves for violation of the US and the Colorado Constitution in these cases. Maybe THEN their investigators would actually WORK at finding the real facts rather than "adding another notch on their conviction list."
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Xyz444 03/10/2011 6:13:00 AM
Something here does not ring quite true. One suspects Chambers is out to establish a reputation for being One Tough Cookie, and doesn't care the proverbial tinker's damn if she destroys the life of an 11 year old and his family by packing him off to a reformatory for years. Does anyone seriously believe for one instant that if the juvenile offender in question was a Kennedy, for instance, there would be the vaguest possibility of incarceration ? There would not even be a prosecution. Chambers has a job to do, granted, but in reading the above article one has distinctly the sense that she is a bully and that certain of the investigators resorted to thuggish tactics. I dislike hearing of these public servants - for that is what they are, supposedly - throwing their weight around and intimidating those they regard as little people, to whom they'd not otherwise give the time of day.