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Are high school seniors Googling their way to graduation?

"It was very common for me to go around, and a student would have their iPod on and they'd be cruising the Internet" -Frank Jones, 77, volunteer at North High

In 2008, North High School had the lowest graduation rate among Denver's eleven traditional public high schools. Just 46 percent of its seniors managed to graduate that year. And the problem was nothing new.

Pat Salas former North High School counselor, says credit recovery doesn't work like it should.
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Pat Salas former North High School counselor, says credit recovery doesn't work like it should.

North has been the target of reform efforts for years, prompted by low test scores, a shrinking student body and the abysmal graduation rate. Denver Public Schools has tried one improvement strategy after another, including changing principals, firing teachers and switching out its academic program and grading structure.

In 2006, DPS instituted a new program called "credit recovery," which allowed students who'd failed core courses such as geometry and literature to retake them online in a computer lab overseen by staff members. The program is now in all of Denver's high schools and will be added to any new schools next year. North was a prime candidate for the program and began using it in 2008.

And it seemed to help: In 2009, North's graduation rate jumped to 58 percent, the second-highest increase in the district. In 2010, it rose to 64 percent.

But two former North staffers say there's a darker side to those rapidly increasing numbers: They claim that seniors in the credit recovery program were allowed to cheat on computer-generated tests in order to graduate last year and that they were encouraged and even helped by an administration desperate to improve graduation rates.

They also say the students learned to game the system on their own. Some used Google or other websites to look up answers. Others took multiple-choice tests over and over again in order to figure out the answers by process of elimination. Once they did, the two staffers say, the students would pass the information on to their friends.

And since North allowed students to get credit for an entire semester simply by taking a single final exam, the staffers question whether they really learned anything at all. One of the staffers — who worked in the credit recovery lab and asked for anonymity because he fears retribution from DPS — says he tried to raise the issue with the district and with North assistant principal Nancy Werkmeister but was rebuffed.

Both staffers' stories are backed up by other North employees and volunteers, who describe a culture of complacency and disrespect in the classrooms and a desire on the part of the administration to improve graduation numbers without improving education.

"[Credit recovery] quickly began to feel like a giant Band-Aid. Is the sweetness of immediate gratification worth the long-range consequences of maybe you can't survive in the real world?" asks former North counselor Pat Salas. "Teenagers tell me the credit recovery classes are extremely easy, and going through the lessons is just the punishment. The finals on most of the classes are so easy that your average kid could do that — and that any kid, with the help of their friends, could do it."

District officials and outgoing North principal Ed Salem insist that the credit recovery program is rigorous. So, too, are the district's graduation standards, they say.

"We are committed to setting a high bar for our students and making sure they have the support and access to educational programs needed to reach and exceed those expectations," says Antwan Wilson, assistant superintendent for post-secondary readiness at DPS. "The district is also absolutely committed to holding all of our schools and their staffs accountable for serving their students well and maintaining a high level of academic integrity in every single classroom."

But Wilson adds that in light of the concerns raised by former staffers through Westword, the district is auditing the transcripts of every student who graduated from North over the past two years. "The district places the highest priority on the academic integrity of all of its programs," he says. "If we determine that any employee has compromised that integrity, we will act immediately."

Salem, who deferred most questions to Wilson, recently announced that he was leaving North to become principal at Abraham Lincoln High School this fall. But shortly thereafter, he backed out of that job, saying he wanted to spend more time with his family. Nicole Veltze, the principal at Skinner Middle School, is slated to take over at North; she'll be the school's fourth principal in six years.

This past year, North made several changes to its credit recovery program, including limiting to once the number of times a student can fail a test before it locks the student out in an effort to encourage him to re-read the lesson before retaking the test.

The biggest change is that North has gone from hosting credit recovery in a single computer lab with a single staff member to having a full-blown "Engagement Center," where 150 full-time students are overseen by ten teachers or other employees.

On May 23, more than 100 seniors graduated from North High. But, current and former North teachers wonder, how many of them are equipped for life after high school?

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North's Engagement Center comprises four classrooms in a less busy wing of the school. On a May morning, just a week before graduation, between five to ten students were sitting quietly at computers in each classroom. In one, the students worked on math quizzes with the help of a roaming teacher.

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  • Firemedic_30ca 12/13/2011 10:15:00 PM

    I was a teacher at DPS working at CEC with DPS students all over the district. i was told point blank by several staff members "kids dont fail here. If you give a student an F, you're risking being fired." I was asked to create a program which lead to students obtaining a certification to work as health care professionals on the public. I created the program to adhere to all federal government standards, making this a college level program as i was asked. The students, who are not used to receiving homework or any type or tests greater than 30 questions which count towards their grades, began to fail heavily. I was fired for unrelated reasons according to the administration just before the end of the semester. They immediately went into the electronic grade books and changed the grades of every student in the class to a B or an A. We are talking about kids that were absent 20 times or more, never did homework and failed every test. They walked away with an A. That should give you an idea of what DPS is doing and the level knowledge their kids are leaving with...

  • 11/19/2011 12:57:00 AM

    I graduated from North but also went to East & Cec both very good schools but I can tell you East also had credit recovery programs and Cec sent all their failing senior to Norths engagement center. It is sad that people only want to look at the bad of north or not investigate the entire story. North is like a family, there is not one teacher that would not help you when you needed it, and everyone knows that the engagement center teachers worked night and day with those kids helping them to better understand the material. To write this demonstrates that when something goes from bad to good it can never be becasue it improved people always have to try to find something.

  • Emilyrobarge 06/21/2011 10:37:00 PM

    I have two degrees a BA and a BS. The truth of the matter is the public education system fails at teaching usable life skills. One can only learn those via experiencing life, not sitting in a classroom studying for a standardized test. I applaud the kids who use the resources available to them to get the job done. Honestly, in the workplace, a boss doesn't care how the work gets done, just how it is done. It's not cheating it's being resourceful. A very important part of adult life if you're paying attention.

  • Cap 06/05/2011 5:40:00 PM

    If I am not mistaken, Ms. Salas was recognized by our local ABC television affiliate as a nominee for an Outstanding School Counsellor award 2 years prior to this. I remember the Wednesday faculty meeting in the cafeteria where we applauded for this.

  • Beer_me_like 06/02/2011 11:02:00 PM

    That is funny, thank you.

  • Bea 06/01/2011 2:50:00 PM

    15% minority? And how many are on the free lunch program? How many are homeless? How many have illiterate parents working more than one job? Cherry Creek's population is very well-heeled. It's not about ethnicity, but it's very much about socio-economic groups. A huge portion (way more than 15%) of Denver's kids are struggling to survive, not coming from comfortable homes where they get the genuine head start of educated parents and an enriching environment. The kids who ace the tests at any school, North included, come up in that same type of educated home and would be acing tests NO MATTER WHERE THEY WENT TO SCHOOL. There are just a whole lot more of them in Cherry Creek, Boulder, private schools, and selective public schools like D'Evelyn.

  • Bea 06/01/2011 2:37:00 PM

    Is this supposed to mean "I posted several. Which one are you in reference to?" Poor dear. These are what we call five-cent words. I won't suggest that you get them straight, since you are probably operating at your own highest level of ability already. Poor dear. Well, Jesus loves you and so do I, whether you learn basic English or not.

  • manyougottafeelthisshirt 06/01/2011 2:40:00 AM

    Thanks Erik you really helped me see the error of my ways.

  • manyougottafeelthisshirt 06/01/2011 2:37:00 AM

    I posted several which one or you in reference too.

  • FedUpCitizen 05/31/2011 6:24:00 PM

    I'd like to know what charters you're referring to. Charter schools have a Board and are accountable for academic performance, which DPS also monitors. Our school also evaluates our head of school on retention.

  • Erik 05/31/2011 12:12:00 PM

    Your understanding of "a plan put in place to stop the mass flooding of drop outs into the system" is shallow, meaningless and in no way relates to this article. This story is about the North H.S. administration (Salem, Werkmeister, Assistant Principals, etc.) that allowed cheating to take place to make their 'leadership' look effective. It is the worst that DPS has to offer. All these immoral cowards need to be banished from public education for good!

  • Jenny 05/31/2011 11:51:00 AM

    Ignorant cretins like yourself have no business commenting on a story about education. You have added nothing. Please shrivel up and blow away !

  • Friend of North 05/31/2011 3:17:00 AM

    Sorry, but the article is based on very solid reporting. The students were allowed to take advantage of a failed system - they were encouraged by adults who need to show evidence of success. The Werkmeister's and Salem's are the problem. They are more concerned about their careers than about students and their futures. DPS requires that schools meet specific criteria - graduates, college apps, ACTs (North's was about 14 on the last recorded year), CSAPs, parent involvement, etc. The support is in the form of yelling and degrading teachers, rather than creating a team that can focus on success. North's administration of the past 3 years is at fault - the kids just did what they were expected to do, regardless of the efforts of teachers and parents to educate them. The sad part is they lose more than anyone else. Shame on Werkmeister, Salem and the rest of their cronies.

  • manyougottafeelthisshirt 05/31/2011 1:00:00 AM

    Then add on teaching for CSAP a third of the year, teaching for student count day a third of the year, and of course not teaching due to burnout a third of the year. Add on complaints of a longer school day or a shorter school year and you get a melting pot of headaches, excuses and teachers, students, parents and administrators all trying to add thier own ingredients while taste testing what they have done so far. Its a mess, but the kids are still growing in a system called the socially unacceptable contract. All jokes aside, all a teacher can do now is put a finger in the hole in the Dike and wait until help comes and hopefully be celebrated if that doesnt work levees should already be in place. I see what is going at North not as a solution but a plan put in place to stop the mass flooding of drop outs into the system.

  • manyougottafeelthisshirt 05/31/2011 12:51:00 AM

    And you mam are the biggest Hater on the westword comment board for May of 2011. May all your days be rainy and all the males who find you attractive Alpo eaters. Get it? I had a feeling posting that would get you going but I see three were afraid to post reply and just hit the like tab, you my friends are the lazy ones or maybe you just don't know how to spell. Until next Memorial Day, and in case you didn't do it already, 'Man you gotta feel this shirt!'

  • Fred 05/30/2011 8:06:00 PM

    Your comment about Cherry Creek High is way off base. The average ACT score at Creek is a 25. The average ACT score for the nation is 21. The last score I could find for DPS was dated 2004, and it was below 18. An average ACT score of 25 at Creek proves that it is an incredible public school. It is even more amazing when you consider it is a regular public school, not a magnet, that only takes the top students. And yes, Creek does have a minority population, over 15 percent. Creek won a silver medal in USnews: http://education.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/listings/high-schools/colorado/cherry_creek_high_school

  • Bea 05/30/2011 3:32:00 PM

    Education doesn't FAIL those people who bother to do the work of becoming educated.

  • Claire 05/30/2011 2:11:00 PM

    Actually, this whole story starts with the exposing of the shameful cheating and lying that the North administration so callously engaged in. Salem and Werkmeister and the entire AP staff should never be allowed to work in any public school system again, ever!

  • Erik 05/30/2011 1:53:00 PM

    "This shows the epitome of why education will always FAIL." Please, stop embarrassing yourself, already. You have shown yourself to be a complete and utter fool.

  • Jenny 05/30/2011 1:46:00 PM

    You seem to be the expert on illogical and dumb!

  • Jenny 05/30/2011 1:25:00 PM

    That ALMOST meant something !

  • ILL Refugee 05/30/2011 1:20:00 PM

    Lower the bar to ensure that everyone can pass? Reinforce poor work ethics and cheapen the successes of students that put forth the required effort? The American education system is a joke you fools wont be laughing in 20 years when your illiterate kids are still living in your basements when they should be holding down jobs or running the country. Please don't procreate if you are not willing to take responsibility for educating them.

  • Claire 05/30/2011 12:55:00 PM

    You really didn't have to tell us that you didn't graduate; we were able to figure that out by your pathetic input. Being that you lack academic skills, as well as social skills, heed the advice of our sixteenth president, Abraham Lincoln: "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."

  • manyougottafeelthisshirt 05/30/2011 4:32:00 AM

    If another article like this is posted during another holiday weekend like the 4th or labor day I promise I will be to busy to even read it, but during this memorial day weekend Im posting threads until the wheeels fall off. Oh and I didn't graduate by the way, so 100 people already did more then I did at their age. Congrats!

  • manyougottafeelthisshirt 05/30/2011 4:25:00 AM

    College was the 1 word. This shows the epitome of why education will always FAIL. So I guess I will be the one idiot amongst sooooooo many scholars. DUH Winning!

  • manyougottafeelthisshirt 05/30/2011 4:21:00 AM

    Common sense tells you it can work, logic doesn't apply to our education system. To try an have a logical discussion about young people, and education and the effect using a computer program will have on evryone based on North high school is illogical as well as dumb.

  • Bea 05/30/2011 3:15:00 AM

    Prior to 1975, schools could expell behavior problems. In 1975, the government handed down the special education act which charged public schools with identifying behavioral problems and providing services for them. One reason that private and parochial schools can offer excellence in programs is that they can't be forced to include the most difficult students, which is what your comment addresses head-on. Delivering excellence, expecting excellence, and offering everything from nurturing to tough love are the least of a day's unappreciated work in a public school...

  • anon 05/29/2011 8:14:00 PM

    Perhaps these schools should consider switching to the Classics education some schools have tried, with success. now of two Catholic schools who do this, with great success. More rigor is required, not less. Schools need to be harder, not easier. Stop focusing on graduation rates, and focus on skills. And stop coddling. Kick out the behavior problems and warehouse them elsewhere. No one wants to say that, but it needs to be done.

  • anon 05/29/2011 8:00:00 PM

    "I proofread what I write at my job, because I am paid for it." Which means you place no value on anything unless you are paid for it? Another worthless shithead of your generation with zero values and ethics. Lovely.

  • NWD Native 05/29/2011 7:51:00 PM

    The future of our country, my friends. And these will be the same people who believe they are "too good" to work at McDs or digging ditches. See you in the welfare lines!

  • NWD Native 05/29/2011 7:48:00 PM

    Did they not teach you to use punctuation? Good luck in the real world with a job not flipping hamburgers. You obviously cannot even construct one coherent sentence. How do you think you will put together a resume? Complete a job interview? Write an email for a business setting? Stop raging and start improving yourself. You desperately need it.

  • NWD Native 05/29/2011 7:42:00 PM

    "Now check it- "South Korea was the first country in the world to provide high-speed internet access from every primary, junior, and high school" (COPIED AND PASTED OFF GOOGLE)" Correlation does not equal causation. Basic logic - which they didn't teach at North, I guess.

  • NWD Native 05/29/2011 7:36:00 PM

    You mean over there at the worst McDs on the planet - the one on 38th, near Lowell? even 20 years ago that was the slowest McDs on earth. And assuming this is true, why doesn't the school then publicize this, and go after McDs for this? My guess is that the kids who are working the lunch shift weren't much for attending school in the first place.

  • NWD native 05/29/2011 7:28:00 PM

    hardworking...yeah, sure. I don't believe that at all. And I would guess that most are products of bad, dysfunctional backgrounds with parents that don't really care. We need to stop babying and hold accountable - period. And stop pretending that every kid is destined for college.

  • private school 05/29/2011 7:19:00 PM

    I have heard that most student cheat no matter what type of school they attend. It seems that maybe the system itself needs a change in infrastructure. Students in IB programs think they are God's gift to earth and they are dumb as rocks. Public education in general is a joke. George Washington, Overland, Cherry Creek, Smoky Hill all filled with sub par kids awarded for their mediocrity. I'm guessing North has a high amount of diversity, so people are making an issue out of this. The kids at Creek get nanny's to do their homework and I do not see an article about that...

  • Bea 05/29/2011 4:35:00 PM

    Exactly.

  • testpilot 05/29/2011 4:23:00 PM

    As a volunteer in DPS, I observe that the bar is set very low and allows graduating students to have a sense of accomplishment; DPS is not for college-bound students. More than 10% of the students that I encounter are not U.S. citizens and do not even have a path for college education after high school. School reform is crucial to create separate learning environments for productive skills-based tracts and college-bound preparation. Mixing the two is confusing and results in the lowest common denominator.

  • Tre 05/29/2011 1:56:00 PM

    One (1) word ? Several words...idiot.

  • Claire 05/29/2011 1:36:00 PM

    Your insecurity complex is peeking through. ***************************************************************** That was a funny joke !

  • Claire 05/29/2011 1:23:00 PM

    The ignorance and stupidity that you speak of are represented by the incoherent screeds written by 'manyougottafeelthisshirt' and 'GRskins'.

  • 05/29/2011 12:44:00 PM

    Exactly my point. I'm not blaming the kids, but how can the schools be 100% responsible for educating kids who won't show up? And the proof is in the article.

  • crbaily 05/29/2011 5:16:00 AM

    I find it a little ridiculous that, simply because this article concerns education, people feel entitled to play "grammar police" and belittle and condescend to well-meaning posters who are simply trying to add their thoughts and insights to this "conversation". And how sad when full-grown adults get their kicks from trying to make the very people whose education they seem to care so much about feel "studid" because of spelling errors that are common to the writing of - let's face it - plenty of college graduates. I recently completed a doctoral degree in science education at CU, and have a great deal of experience teaching students who are the products of Colorado's public schools - I am not a high school teacher (and would never want to be, not in this mess of a system) but I care deeply about education, and about fostering a love of learning in my students. I am still dismayed by the poor writing skills I encounter every day (and I see it as my job to help them improve), but I've come to understand that these students are lacking in these skills because they have less relevance to their lives, and not because they are somehow "dumber" than we were when there was no internet or spell check or whatever tools that today's students have come to rely on. Kids today know far more about the world around them (thanks to the internet) than I did at that age, and also most of you, I'm sure; they're smart and savvy in ways that you can't appreciate when you dismiss their thoughts and ideas because it's not being communicated with perfect English. I think that a LARGE number of functioning and successful adults in America would not be able to pass a GED exam if they had to take it tomorrow, which really only goes to show that high school doesn't teach us much that we actually "need" to make it through life... I would like to see every child getting the education they deserve (it is all about creating opportunities, in my mind), in a country where real education is actually valued (sadly, not this one), but it's not going to happen in a system that values the memorization of facts over the development of knowledge; where teachers are blamed left and right by parents who can't be bothered to ask their kids what they learned in school that day; in a state that underfunds its schools, and takes away even more funding when they don't get the "right numbers". These people (teachers, administrators, AND students) are under tremendous pressure to produce better statistical results at the cost of actual learning. Colorado, you get what you pay for, which is practically nothing.

  • FedUpCitizen 05/29/2011 1:36:00 AM

    Woodrow, many of these kids are hardworking and want to learn. It's not fair to condemn them when the adults here are the ones that allowed them to cheat and manipulate the requirements. This is why leadership, character, and culture are vital to high quality education.

  • 05/29/2011 1:17:00 AM

    As a professional in the tech field, I support tech in the classroom but students need to master the basics before they can use the tools. By your logic, why teach math at all? We'd simply be teaching kids how to operate a calculator. Once students understand algebraic concepts and can do the work, then we introduce tools so more complex topics can be introduced. As a follow-up to your point, the assessments should be more aligned with what we want the kids to learn. I hope these credit recovery modules incorporate word problems and require students to know how to identify the correct data to solve a question, but they still need to know who to do the basic equations.

  • Vasyafit 05/29/2011 1:13:00 AM

    "fedupCitizen" if you are concerned over pasting an algebraic equation into a math website, change the questions so they can't... It is about adapting to technology, not taking it away.

  • Gunthertoddle 05/29/2011 1:08:00 AM

    Wow! Just reading these comments make me laugh! All you do is judge majority of them! Do you live on this particular web page because it seems that all your time is being wasted on this article! I feel terribly bad for you, but i shall keep you in my prayers! ROFLMAO! The most i can do at this point is be the bigger person and not argue back because i have a damn life that i intend to enjoy and the stupidity of others are just entertainment!! people are just so ignorant!! haha ha hahaaaaaa

  • GToddle 05/29/2011 12:57:00 AM

    Try to find another country that's better

  • Adogg 05/28/2011 11:54:00 PM

    don't blame this on the teachers people like you like to do so much of the time. this was an administrative decision to raise grad numbers. it is not always the teachers.

  • woodrow t justice 05/28/2011 11:14:00 PM

    so, how much do TAXPAYERS spend to fund a school that graduates just 100 students a year? This entire country is a mess, and the KIDS are stupid and unmotivated HOMEYS! They just wanna be pimps n hoes! USA? In trouble.

  • 05/28/2011 7:59:00 PM

    I feel for kids who grow up in metropolitan areas. There are so many distractions - not only for the students but their parents, as well. I grew up in the country, where there was nothing to do BUT go to school. Paying attention in class was a small price to pay for being able to see your friends on the bus ride to school, at recess and the bus ride home. Also, there was plenty of motivation for the parents to take a keen interest in their children's education, as a lot of the parents made a living shoveling cow shit, digging irrigation trenches and driving tractors for 10 to 16 hours a day and wanted a more comfortable life for their kids. It seems that this does not apply at a similar rate to parents in the 'city'. Relying on what many perceive to be "bone-head" jobs to support those allowed to fall through the cracks, you may be underestimating the skills needed to be proficient and safe at said drudgery. I am employed in an industry that, if someone were to casually observe me and my workmates, looks easy enough. Let me assure you, though, that if we weren't proficient at calculating ratios, sequencing long lists of numbers on the fly and being able to read at a level that allows one to comprehend how to handle hazardous materials, there would be small-scale mushroom clouds containing all sorts of foul stuff going off all over the country.

  • manyougottafeelthisshirt 05/28/2011 7:25:00 PM

    And in your opinion its the schools and the parents, then what is left for these young people to depend on?

  • manyougottafeelthisshirt 05/28/2011 7:22:00 PM

    Proof!

  • 05/28/2011 6:36:00 PM

    manyougottafeelthisshirt, what makes you think the information in the article is not true? Just because it doesn't reflect positively on North High School doesn't mean the writer made this stuff up. I believe it is true, mostly based on what I knew prior to reading this article. So one counselor said some unflattering things about North - what about the other faculty and students, as well as email messages supporting these claims? Did they make that stuff up too? Seriously. And for the folks who want to say it's the school, the system (DPS), or the state of education in the United States, I ask: Where does the responsibility of the parents lie? In my opinion, the parents of these failing kids are largely responsible for the lack of family values when it comes to education, showing up for school - or work, finishing what you started, etc. If a kid doesn't show up for school (see North's attendance rate), they are not going to succeed. However, there are many kids at every high school in America who are succeeding in spite of their lame parents. While schools and school districts are in need to major restructuring, parents need to step up & take some responsibility for this failure too.

  • Bea 05/28/2011 5:28:00 PM

    Do you have any idea how many of North's students have been hired to work the lunch shift at McDonald's before graduating? Do the math. Working lunches guarantees no attendance in regular classes. This whole country is a joke.

  • Bea 05/28/2011 5:24:00 PM

    Don't know the difference between writing a text message and letter to the editor? IMO, that's hi-lar. ROTFL.

  • Happygram2002 05/28/2011 5:12:00 PM

    High school graduation is necessary to get a job at McDonalds etc, Let the kids get through. I am sure the college bound kids are getting good enough grades to go, these kids that may be getting out with a little ease are not hurting anyone. The military and service industry have need for applicants too. If you are worried about the knowledge they leave with start in elementary high school is too late!

  • manyougottafeelthisshirt 05/28/2011 4:28:00 PM

    Honestly in reading your post I would have to say you have a 5th grade humor level or maybe a 3rd grade level and when you were giving the definition of balls you left out the correct english term of sac and you should have also took of the s for ballsac is not plural unless you are deformed. Yes Sir I am a MASTER joke teller and I can see from your joke that you most likely never got past the sixth grade and probably were high when you wrote it. Which brings me to this point. What do you expect from our great education system when half of the people in this great state of ours INCLUDING the students are High on weed. Tell me have you ever done credit recovery before? Now tell me have you ever done credit recovery ON WEED? (copied and pasted from half-baked via jon stewart)

  • manyougottafeelthisshirt 05/28/2011 4:17:00 PM

    (COPIED FROM MY PREVIOUS POST) Everyone uses a computer to do their work and if the students at North only figure it out in the 10th-12th grade I'm happy for them and give them one piece of advice...... In college do the same thing when possible but never take credit for someone elses work or go outside the rules to get ahead. Now to Miss Asmar where is the proof that they are doing wrong by citing the DPS code, CDE code or USDE code that says they cant do what they are doing. Then when it is all said and done look up the top five countries for education top 1: south korea top 2: finland top 3: norway (COPIED AND PASTED OFF GOOGLE) top 4: japan top 5: lux Now check it- "South Korea was the first country in the world to provide high-speed internet access from every primary, junior, and high school" (COPIED AND PASTED OFF GOOGLE) Why I hate the attack of one school 1. The reporter is biased and wrong 2. The public is misinformed 3. When the truth comes out no follow article is printed 4. Schools with a high level of minorities are still "SCHOOLS" 5. Kids that are considered minorities are still "STUDENTS' On May 23, more than 100 seniors graduated from North High. But, current and former Students wonder, how many of them are going to be productive members of society or how many of them will see this article and start their early years of real life feeling defensive and as though they are being targeted as cheaters when they have not broken a rule that says they cheat? (once again where is it written). Please write an apology for this Negative biased untrue piece of writing, or I suggest the westword look towards North Students to write articles that do not have alot of effort put into it SINCE that is what the article is implying and that is what Miss Asmar has done.

  • manyougottafeelthisshirt 05/28/2011 4:15:00 PM

    1 word "College" a 'collage' is what this article is, a 'collage' of BS

  • manyougottafeelthisshirt 05/28/2011 4:13:00 PM

    Then everybody who texts a text message is a caveman(LOL, LMAO. SMH) Education is a 12 year process in our country but a lifelong process in the rest of the known world.

  • manyougottafeelthisshirt 05/28/2011 4:07:00 PM

    The whole story starts with the System, NOT the school...

  • Bea 05/28/2011 3:25:00 PM

    The rants published by the students who believe in the program are the best proof that it does not work. Learning to write well enough to command some respect is rarely fun. It involves working closely with a teacher who will sort your mistakes and make you correct them until you no longer repeat them. Very few journalists have a strong command of the written language these days, and it's unlikely to change for the better since the dollars for education will continue to be spent on technology instead of human expertise. Rather hilarious that they address me as "sir." Scroll back those overblown estimates of reading level, folks.

  • Tre 05/28/2011 12:36:00 PM

    Writing correctly matters. One's grammatical usage gives veracity to the point he or she is trying to make. If you ever become able to walk upright without dragging your knuckles, you may begin to understand things that involve finesse; including one's attention to detail when using the written word. Until then, be happy in your caveman time warp.

  • Erik 05/28/2011 12:05:00 PM

    Put your "collage level reading and writing" to good use and re-read the entire article. This story depicts the cheating that the North administration allowed LAST YEAR in Credit Recovery. The story really is complex, and that is a reality that makes you irrelevant. You were hopelessly led down the path of ignorance and nothingness, filtering empty information. Please think before you write.

  • 05/28/2011 9:22:00 AM

    You guys sit there and judge this kid because this article is talking about his high school specifically but here's the thing, that's the problem with all high schools anymore. Have you all read anything other kids have typed recently? And no I don't just mean the use of u and cuz and stupid shit like that. There are so many kids graduating that don't know how to spell the simplest of words and don't know how to use a lot of the most basic grammar. Thats not a problem with this school or with this program that has to do with the school system in america. We're lacking, we're falling behind and all these budget cuts sure as hell aren't helping. Lets see how much further behind we can fall from other countries around the world. It's sad when foreign exchange students come over and they are put grades ahead because their school systems are getting their kids to learn a lot more by the same age. Don't pick on the school pick on the system. And sorry kid there is no way you are typing at a college level (and yes it's college not collage that's a different word.)

  • AAGR 05/28/2011 5:00:00 AM

    And you sir need to get a life, its pathetic in how you care more about my writing then the article, i agree with GRSKINS.

  • Gssns 05/28/2011 4:58:00 AM

    whats also pathetic is that you sit on the internet commenting on tons people comments saying we are wrong or judging our writing level etc, like i care how my writing is on this like I'm going to sit here checking every single error, please get a life in the process. I'm 16 years old and i have a collage level in reading and writing so no i will not care how my grammar etc. looks on here :) but cool story bro, in what part do you shut the fuck up?

  • Bea 05/28/2011 4:50:00 AM

    And you, Dear Student, are not writing at even a 3rd grade level. If the teachers/helpers in the Engagement Center have led you to believe that you are operating at grade level, then it is you who are gullible.

  • Bea 05/28/2011 4:47:00 AM

    What's pathetic is that you have no idea of how to write at a 5th grade level. There really is a reason that "simple work" does not equal mastery of college preparatory skills.

  • Gssns 05/28/2011 4:19:00 AM

    lie

  • GRskins 05/28/2011 4:06:00 AM

    I'm a student in the engagement center and let me say I've learned more from it then regular classes in school, the teachers actually help us, and are always looking over our shoulders half the time to make sure no one cheats, the teachers are respected and very nice people I've learned more from the engagement teachers then regular teachers in classes so i suggest this article to be false, take it from someone who goes and does it not some reporter or journalist. I hope they don't shut down the engagement center it has helped me so much, and I never once cheated, it was simple work and with a good work ethic to get stuff done i did and so did many other students, i can't believe someone would put down North's way of teaching and tell everyone we cheated our way through high school! pathetic!.

  • AARG 05/28/2011 3:58:00 AM

    people should base the whole thing on North High its a really great school and has high learning standard for the most part the engagement center is a success and a whole other building also get your facts straight because teachers blocked wiki answers and Google searches!!! Don't talk until you know the both sides of the story this is an article from Westward not everything is true you people are so gullible!

  • Anonyteacher 05/28/2011 3:51:00 AM

    The typos indicate my unhinged rage, not my incompetence as a teacher.

  • Anonyteacher 05/28/2011 3:47:00 AM

    To the conservatives and ed reform types who have posted comments that suggest that charters/vouchers would eliminate such problems: I've worked at one of the big, failing DPS high schools. Frustrated by the very issues the article addresses, I left my safe, tenured status to teach in Denver charters. I've now worked at three of them. I can say without a single mote of doubt that the cheating and lowering of standards is far worse among charters. Why would anyone think that allowing schools to hire inexperienced and uncertified teachers and eliminating oversight would do anything else? Charters continue to exist only if they fill up all the seats by the October count, and score high on on the spring CSAP. Drag in kids from off the street, keep them there until October, and then kick/counsel them out before the CSAP to keep the scores up, DPS is happy because it keeps the most needy kids out of schools like North and West. Good God, I've seen students given credit for a year's work after showing up for only the last week of school. The Principal cited "personal growth" as a rationale. I've seen a student receive credit for an "internship" when every damn person in the school knew exactly what corner the student was dealing drugs from. The credits wear recorded on the student's DPS transcript as "Sociology". I've seen pitiful, naive Teach For America Yalies and Princetonians rationalize the fact that students are literally drinking alcohol out of 7-11 cups in the classroom..."We really have to check our judgement at the door and meet them halfway"...and watched administrators not in approval. Pretty funny, if it weren't so damn sad.

  • Tre 05/28/2011 2:37:00 AM

    There is a medical distinction between Guts and Balls. We've all heard about people having Guts or Balls. But, do you really know the difference between them ? In an effort to keep you informed, here are the definitions: Guts - is arriving home late after a night out with the guys, being met by your wife with a broom, and having the Guts to ask "are you still cleaning, or are you flying somwhere ?" Balls - is coming home late after a night out with the guys, smelling of perfume and beer, lipstick on your collar, slapping your wife on the butt and having the Balls to say "you're next, Chubby." I hope this clears up any confusion on the definitions. Medically speaking, there is NO difference in the outcome Both result in death.

  • Carmen 05/28/2011 2:19:00 AM

    Some have reached a point in their logic where lies and cheating are protected and allowable and the truth (and the telling of it) is to be scorned. When facts are inconvenient, ignore them. Salem and Werkmeister are lucky that Westword didn't tell the WHOLE story.

  • manyougottafeelthisshirt 05/28/2011 1:15:00 AM

    Dumb article, dumb concept, go on the witch hunt on for another school brown noser. I went to Cherry creek high thanks to bussing in 1991 and they used everything under the sun to prepare get ahead and stay ahead. Now the kids at North finally catch up to the regular world and they are getting put down for improving. Everyone uses a computer to do their work and if the students at North only figure it out in the 10th-12th grade I'm happy for them and give them one piece of advice...... In college do the same thing when possible but never take credit for someone elses work or go outside the rules to get ahead. Now to Miss Asmar where is the proof that they are doing wrong by citing the DPS code, CDE code or USDE code that says they cant do what they are doing. Then when it is all said and done look up the top five countries for education top 1: south korea top 2: finland top 3: norway (COPIED AND PASTED OFF GOOGLE) top 4: japan top 5: lux Now check it- "South Korea was the first country in the world to provide high-speed internet access from every primary, junior, and high school" (COPIED AND PASTED OFF GOOGLE) Why I hate the attack of one school 1. The reporter is biased and wrong 2. The public is misinformed 3. When the truth comes out no follow article is printed 4. Schools with a high level of minorities are still "SCHOOLS" 5. Kids that are considered minorities are still "STUDENTS' On May 23, more than 100 seniors graduated from North High. But, current and former Students wonder, how many of them are going to be productive members of society or how many of them will see this article and start their early years of real life feeling defensive and as though they are being targeted as cheaters when they have not broken a rule that says they cheat? (once again where is it written). Please write an apology for this Negative biased untrue piece of writing, or I suggest the westword look towards North Students to write articles that do not have alot of effort put into it SINCE that is what the article is implying and that is what Miss Asmar has done.

  • Bea 05/27/2011 10:21:00 PM

    Did you ever think about operating a 20-ton crane? It requires excellent higher math skills, but it's considered blue collar work. There is no on-the-job training to bring your math skills up so that you can do that job. You either learned it in school or you didn't. And I hope you never pass by a crane operated by someone whose math is not top-notch. If you think that 4th grade skills are all you need, you are clearly in the wrong society. Ah, yes. You can maybe survive on kitchen work and ironing, although not many laundries are hiring right now. And how many tragedies have we recorded in which parents who didn't think they needed physics or chemistry proceeded to kill their own children by doing STUPID stuff like driving across Colorado with the kids in the back of a covered truck with the rear window open or loading their homes with spray cleaners until someone needed dialysis? Who is supporting you in this big, bad, real world, because it takes a mountain of ironing to make a very little money--?

  • another_liberal 05/27/2011 9:49:00 PM

    Ok. well. if internet [especially yahoo] is just barely getting to figure it out- isnt it obvious and sorry but NO SHIT. throughout highschool teachers encouraged us to actually look online for facts and etc. we arent copying and pasting, we are learning how to browse and use technology. dont blast technology, if the gov't wants to make more restrictions on internet and take away our right to learn and research whatever we want then why blast highschoolers. ahh. anyway. fuck it.

  • Sacredjoy10 05/27/2011 9:19:00 PM

    if you are angry at North because you feel that didn't do you justice in graduating you. You have been under the mistaken believe that education and school are two words that mean the same thing. Education doesn't take place until you leave school, that's why doctors have residences, You can not learn a job or skill by reading about it in a book only through experience. Ask someone who has gotten their Masters degree in their field of choice Do you now feel confidently skilled in your field? Go educate your self now in what it is you want to learn. No amount of the present form of school after about the 4th grade prepares you to live in the real world, when will you need trig, or past participles. What you need to know is how to prepare foods that feed your body or iron a shirt or how to prepare your taxes.

  • Sierra 05/27/2011 8:37:00 PM

    My reply was not to you but to Jenny. I proofread what I write at my job, because I am paid for it. Anyway, I am not too worried about the opinions of random posters on the internet. Yes, it does take extraordinary patience to be a teacher. You should note that teachers are losing "patience" with the profession and leaving teaching in droves. I think this is a perfect illustration to show how teachers are held to a far and away higher standard than most other professions, while facing ever decreasing compensation and job security, and ever increasing derision and ridicule. I can do no more than stand by and chuckle at how revisionists, parents, and back-seat principals destroy the very system they try to save. And if I mispelled anything in this post, I don't really care. Peace

  • DenverTeach 05/27/2011 7:50:00 PM

    the only part that Asmar got wrong was that this is specific to North... this same practice is being used at all of DPS' underperforming schools. Abraham Lincoln High School has become a darling of the district and local media for its "turnarond", while the student experience or expectation has not changed much at all DPS is getting great publicity out of their "turnarounds" that are like their leadership: all style and no substance

  • 05/27/2011 7:14:00 PM

    What? Explain your comment since it doesn't make sense.

  • 05/27/2011 7:10:00 PM

    Did you read the article? Pasting an algebraic equation into a math website to get the answer is not conducting "research." Allowing kids to earn credit for an algebra class because they're able to do this is cheating them and everyone who pays for public education in our city.

  • BSb 05/27/2011 6:47:00 PM

    You may not of received much of an education Mr. Santos, but you got balls, big ones.

  • James_santos0821 05/27/2011 6:35:00 PM

    I went to North High in the 2009-2010 school year and after reading this article Westword couldn't have been more right. I am, sadly, a prime example of this. Before going to North I was missing 80 credits(14 classes) and when I told the credit recovery teacher about this, without hesitation, he said, "Don't worry, that's nothing." In about 7 weeks I finished every single one of them at a pace of 2 classes a week. The problem is this: I didn't learn anything. 100% of the time I was copying the questions being asked on APEX and pasting them on wiki.answers.com. It is sad for me to say this, but teachers were actually encouraging and helping me and other students do this. Once, someone from the district came to North to check why and how kids were getting so much classes done. I was in the computer lab when this happened and before the administrator walked into the classroom, the teacher told everybody to exit the Internet "and act like you're really doing something until he leaves." In addition to this, the last two weeks of school Ms.Guevara and Ms. Werkmeister were actually telling seniors to drop their classes if they were failing them and she was asking the credit recovery teacher to enroll these kids in credit recover classes. Needless to say, most kids that graduated from North in since this program was implemented don't have the knowledge required to succeed in college and if this is continued a diploma from North will be worth less than it already is. DPS ADMINISTRATORS: INVALIDATE NORTH GRADUATES WHOM HAVE GRADUATED UNDER THIS PROGRAM, YOU WILL ACTUALLY BE DOING THEM AND YOURSELVES A FAVOR, BECAUSE IF NO ACTION IS TAKEN NORTH WILL REMAIN AN INCOMPETENT SCHOOL WHOSE GRADUATES WILL BE INCOMPETENT IN THE "REAL WORLD"

  • Vasyafit 05/27/2011 4:14:00 PM

    Kids research on Google, good for them. The main point of a test is to review their knowledge of the material, not trick them into wrong answers and bad grades. If a child looks up google to learn answers to questions, isn't it the same as reading the text for the answer? Maybe we just need to have more quizes? Tell me who is not dependent on spell check these days, I would have to say most people. I am more worried about all the other social political crap the teachers try to feed out kids. Teachers need more tools to teach kids and focus on the basics- Math, Languages (reading/writing), Science and technology- not sexuality and liberal politics.

  • Bea 05/27/2011 3:19:00 PM

    It takes extraordinary patience to be a teacher. Glad you found a better application for your skills. Everyone makes mistakes. If you didn't learn to wait and proofread before submitting writing in college, then this is the perfect experience to drive that one home. Hope you find the grace and gratitude to embrace the little lesson instead of resenting it ad infinitum. Peace.

  • 05/27/2011 3:14:00 PM

    More than half dont graduate?? Pathetic ! To all you parents who have kids who are not graduating..... The school district should send you all a bill for "babysitting" your kids for 12 years. Maybe then you would take an interest and make sure they graduate. We look forward to supporting your idiots with food stamps and welfare, NOT !

  • Sierra 05/27/2011 2:37:00 PM

    Exactly what is the purpose of your post other than to be a smart ass? My point was that my hands were moving faster than my brain because the subject annoys me. I saw the errors after I posted, but I could not fix them and did not want to make an additional post for no other reason than to correct spelling/quasi-homonym errors. Even "english" teachers can make mistakes every now and again. Do you somehow feel superior now? I was a teacher, a physics teacher. I now make twice the money in half the time because I got tired of dealing with arrogant pisshead attitudes like yours.

  • Jackie 05/27/2011 2:36:00 PM

    I'm a 2011 graduate and I've taken credit recovery and it's a complete mockery of the educational system. Most of the courses give you the answers to the questions so you can " check" your work. Schools today are teaching incompetence to students by giving them a get-out-of jail free card basically. Instead engaging and challenging students they meet students in their comfort zone which most often means giving them the answers. I've seen teachers do student's work for them. The sad part is that anyone can graduate from schools like North. It's sad that in a growing city we allow "volunteers" to teach our youth instead of certified teachers. Challenge the students and find a way to understand them and you'll see graduation rates rise and more students actually surviving life after high school then out on the streets.

  • 05/27/2011 2:33:00 PM

    As a North High School Alumni class of "03" I know of the problems of poor graduation rates. With a Freshmen class of 400+ there was a graduating class of less then 200. When I was there they had not yet implemented the "computer magnet program" (as it was called when I was attending) and had many Teachers that truely cared about our education. My speech Coach Ms. Shepard was the hardest teacher I ever had in high school but you know once you left her class you learned something. Now my point... not many of these kids or their families stress enough the importance of an education. Many could careless if they passed a Math, English or History class but would show up for Gym, HSROTC, or weight lifting class. The knowledge that education is of the utmost importance needs to originate from the student. You can have world class facilities and teachers but if the student body don't give a damn it wont make a difference. Education is like life.... ITS WHAT YOU MAKE IT!

  • Jenny 05/27/2011 2:23:00 PM

    Needing spell checker is not the problem. Unfortunately, you used the incorrect word. 'Except' and 'accept' aren't a spelling problem - it is a usage problem. You are a teacher ? At North ? Probably an English teacher there.

  • Erik 05/27/2011 12:05:00 PM

    "A true writer does not make claims without any concrete evidence". We are all in agreement with that. Unfortunately, that is not the case with this story. Literally, hundreds of pages of documents exist showing the nefarious deeds of Werkmeister pushing through her (and Salem's) agenda of graduating students with insufficient credits needed to graduate. This is typical - shoot the messanger.

  • 05/27/2011 7:54:00 AM

    And many of these people even attend, you guessed it, a CHURCH! sad world we live in!

  • Samuel 05/27/2011 5:38:00 AM

    Its bad publicity that threatens the future of North, not the students. A true writer does not make claims without any concrete evidence, and yet all I see in this article is biased interviews to a problem that is not entirely applicable to North. Cheating during online exams is an issue for other schools in other districts as well. The reason for the decline in numbers at North is because some people dont care. Some people in power would rather not step inside the school and actually think of the real reason as to why a school is failing. It makes me angry to see such negative things being said about a school with such great potential. I know friends at North who have gone and done great things with their lives, and I can reassure you that it was not because they bought into the poor reputation that the school had. They made it because of the articles that highlighted the strengths of their school, and the teachers who actually cared what they would go on to do with their lives. These students thrived not because of generalized failures, but because of the victories during high school that they will remind themselves for the rest of their lives. Some people can write all they want about the problems of the schools, but it is only people who can think of positive solutions that can then inspire students to change the world.

  • upslope 05/27/2011 4:03:00 AM

    Do you know how many times voters in Colorado TURNED DOWN vouchers on state wide votes? So why did that happen? BECAUSE THE RICH PEOPLE LIKE PRIVATE SCHOOLS, publicly funded of course.

  • upslope 05/27/2011 3:56:00 AM

    In 1986 politicians asked Colorado teachers to improve student attendance to 96%. I was one of the teacher on a committee with parents to try and figure out how to do this. No funds of course were allocated, just a demand from politicians to wave our magic wands and make it happen. Ever go to college? Those large "orderly" classes with 150 students are flunk out classes. Ever go to kindergarten? It's changed since you were 5. Colorado does not adequately fund education. Now there's an understatement. Let's just punish all the public school children like they do in the southern US. If you can't afford private education, you are condemned to poverty. As a retired teacher I visited schools in Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Georgia, and Florida. What an eye-opener. If you are poor, minority, or handicapped you will be there. Thomas Jefferson was an imperfect human being, but he sure believed in education. So do I. Not your private only for the rich education, but education for all. Public schools have only deteriorated with know it all "specialists" who tell teachers what and how to teach. Public schools have only deteriorated with politicians who have never taught a single person how to read telling teachers how to run their classrooms. Public schools have deteriorated because school boards have been told "they are not responsible" for what happens in the schools. Don't "worry" about the curriculum or visit the schools, that is not your responsibility. I once considered running for the school board. After reading the info that was handed out to candidates on what the job "really" consisted of I was flabbergasted. There is a lot of nonsense going on in this county. That the military is more important than our children is the worst. That parents don't care is the next.

  • Aberedsox123 05/27/2011 3:44:00 AM

    Im a graduate from north in 2010, and I never took credit recovery classes when I attented. I always had great teachers helping me out if I didnt understand a course or assignment. I understand how people are feeling about this, all I want to say is lets see what happens 5, 10, 20 years from now if it will affect them or not.

  • Friend of North 05/27/2011 2:31:00 AM

    Ms. Salas was only one of many interviewed for this article and, other than administrators at the school, all of those interviewed confirmed Ms. Salas' comments. Actually they added more data and relevant facts that this situation has been out of control under the leadership of Ed Salem and Nancy Werkmeister. North HS does some great work - you mentioned some of them. And has some amazing teachers, who are dedicated to students success. North students, parents, teachers, staff and community deserve a high school that meets the needs of students by challenging students to their highest potential. Rather than create opportunities that muck up their futures by "teaching" them that lying and cheating are acceptable.

 
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