I was thereand saw the whole fight..it happened exactly like Palikir said. This anver dude just lost his shit on him..glad he got arrested
By Tom Murphy
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Each new injunction is specific to a particular tour and covers a certain time period. Citing the Lanham Act, the attorneys petition for restraint and seizure orders to protect the logos, likeness and images of the band and its individual members. To make their case, they present a list of trademarks the band owns — Phish, Phish Stick, Phish Food, Gamehendge, Coventry, Oysterhead, Vida Blue and Waterwheel — along with proof of ownership. More times than not, the orders are granted.
Amy Skelton worked as Phish's merchandise manager from 1997 to 2004, serving injunctions on behalf of the band and battling bootleggers. And she took her job to heart: She'd been a friend of the musicians before she ever started working with them. Skelton had met drummer Jon Fishman when they were in college, before he and Phish co-founder Trey Anastasio even met. When the band formed in 1983, she was at the first gigs — and won renown as Phish's first fan. Skelton hosted and handled all the logistics for Phish's very first outdoor event, which took place in August 1991 at Larrabee Farm in Maine, where Skelton was working at the time. That benchmark show is now known as "Amy's Farm" in the annals of Phish history.
She was careful to keep an eye on the band's best interests, treating bootleggers gently and fairly. "You can't restrain anyone for copyright infringement," she notes. "If you're doing that, you're breaking the law. It's not a criminal offense. I'm not putting the band at risk for a shirt seizure."
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At the beginning of each tour, she would familiarize herself with all of the official merchandise being sold so she knew exactly which items were genuine and which were not. "It's all new stuff," she explains. "So you have to get out there and get to know all of the shirts on the lot. I took my time and inspected them all. And you know, people would think that they'd gotten my blessing. Well, it was just I did my homework. I walked by it all day long, thousands of different items and shirts — lots of stuff — and I didn't touch them. People would say, 'These are fair game, right?' They would actually come to me — fans would come up — and show me their new shirt, hot off the press. 'Hey, Amy, I just want to make sure that these are cool.' I'm like, 'Well, they don't infringe our injunction. That's all I can tell you.'"
The band wanted to be sure its image and brand weren't diluted by inferior goods. "To have some kid print on some cheap white T-shirt with a horrible print job was just bad-quality goods," Skelton says. "Or really cheesy poems or something that's so horrible it's not funny. We definitely don't want it associated with us."
She had very specific rules for how such actions were to be handled, though. Before engaging in any type of search-and-seizure type activity, Skelton made sure those helping her with enforcement knew which merch was permissible and which wasn't. "When they got to the show, they would meet me in the merch room," she remembers. "And I always had a bag of samples. So we'd stand in the merch room with my bag of samples, which I'd throw out on the table, like, 'That is our logo. This is our name. Also, this word Gamehendge is copyrighted. You can take that, too.' We'd go through why all of the other things weren't. So I spent probably fifteen minutes before I sent the guys out there. And then I was on radio the whole time, monitoring them."
The size of Skelton's crew depended on the size of the show, usually ranging from twelve to sixteen guys, many of them off-duty cops. After the initial meeting, she'd hand them radios and then send them out to patrol the parking lots, and as they confiscated what they believed to be counterfeit merchandise, they'd bring it back to Skelton for inspections. Sometimes her enforcers were right on the money, and sometimes they'd inadvertently snag goods that were permissible. In those cases, the stuff would be returned whenever possible. She always watched to make sure no one overstepped their bounds.
One of the people she worked with on Phish's Colorado shows was Dave Anver.
Phish heads could be the most devoted fans this side of Insane Clown Posse followers, so attuned to every detail involving their favorite band that when the group started playing an entirely "S"-themed set during the September 2 show, the first in a three-night stand at Dick's, they not only picked up on it, but were debating its significance on Twitter three songs in, and then later on the Phish section of the Phantasy Tour message board.
That's where word of the fight in the parking lot first surfaced — and where a link to the YouTube video "Zombie Apocalypse: Phish Lot Fight!," which had been captured on a cell phone, was eventually posted. That inspired a pair of incensed fans who hadn't seen the actual fight to create a "Stop Dave Anver" Facebook page, with the stated intent of "returning the Colorado live music scene to what it was BEFORE this monster emerged."
I was thereand saw the whole fight..it happened exactly like Palikir said. This anver dude just lost his shit on him..glad he got arrested
Here comes the ambassadors, they show up one by one,And Brett is tasting all the soup to see if it doneAnd Wendy's on the window sill, waiting to be let in,And we're all in the bathtub now, making bathtub gin,And the kings storm the hallway, they've climbed up through the gate,They didn't mean to be impolite, but they just couldn't wait,Here comes the joker, with his silly grin,He carries a martini, made of bathtub gin
do the world a favor andGo kill yourself
This thread is about fat loser biker wanna be's beating down defenseless Asian hippys
Take your politics and shove um up your butt
Here's a link to the police report and Dave ling his ass off. The officer refers to Dave's version of the story " vague ".
Yeah, you're pretty much dicked Dave. Felony assault doesn't look good on job applications.
Mr. Herrara's article is a pretty clear-eyed attempt at piecing together the incident from Colorado. One misstep, however, sticks out, and it isn't a minor one: "...a strongly worded declaration from Phish's in-house counsel, Kevin Shapiro, regarding the effect that bootlegging had had on the act — an assessment that was somewhat ironic, considering that Shapiro also happens to be the band's resident archivist, a bootlegger of another sort."
Equating an archivist with a bootlegger (of another sort) is akin to approximating a pharmacist to a crack dealer. There are people who will indeed conflate those two drug-dispensing occupations, but the fact is one simply isn't the other. A more apt analogy would be to liken a band's archivist to its official biographer, with access from the inside. Whereas a bootlegger is like a blogger, often writing with skill and zeal, but always writing from the outside.
Also, let us not forget that it's fairly sociopathic behavior to harass a person's family and his professional connections, by posting Anver's family's personal information on a site where millions of people can see it.
Injuries allegedly caused by the perp who by the way once was up on an attempted murder rap
Funny thing is seeing the many videos of Dave Anver working record shows selling bootlegs of The Beatles, Elvis, and Pink Floyd. Kind of like biting the hand that feeds you. Pure sleaze.
Gun crazy redneck + drugged out lot kid = no surpriseThe sad part about all this is that the band has clearly become so detached from their fans and the workings of their own organization that a man with a violent criminal record, not to mention an aggressive and violent history with Phish fans, could be hired to "protect" fans from the misbranding of their favorite band. Kevin Shapiro says it all... "This business is based on reputation and brand recognition, and Merchandise is one of the most successful avenues for the Artists to benefit from such fame and connect with their fans." Too bad it took two boys fighting in a parking lot for me to find out that Phish believes their merchandise is one of the best ways to connect with us. And here I thought it was all about the music. I guess it's time to grow up.
This article has been corrected to reflect the fact that Kevin Shapiro, Phish's in-house counsel, provided a declaration that accompanied the request for an injunction, but that request was actually filed by an outside law firm retained by Phish. Our apologies for the error.
Yeah Anver seems like a straight up solid, productive member of society.....Well except for not paying child support and selling guns to mass murderers.
Oh and selling COPYRIGHTED bootlegged concert DVD"s at flea markets.
Yeah Anver is innocent, at least he DIDN'T PARTICIPATE in the planning of 9-11
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Those court papers sure do differ from Mr Anver's story! And on another note Mr Anver claims this isn't the first time he's kept a loaded SHOTGUN by his front door. I for one have NEVER had to keep a loaded gun by the entrance of my home EVER.
THis statement alone to me speaks volumes on Mr Anvers character.
I am very curious why he was in the lot. DID THE PHISH hire him?? Did the concert promoter STRAUSBERG hire him?? Please keep us posted Mr Herrera.
All I can say besides the obvious fact that bad things happened and this is no joke... is the irony that the scene uses federal injunctions to stem merch sales as they 'have to' protect their biz, etc. If anybody has been watching, it is also federal laws close to passing that basically will arrest promoters, bands, festival landowners, so forth, using well established rulings from such real world issues like rackateering, knowingly allowing, creating, supporting... A gathering of people where it is blatantly known by most involved illegal activities will be or are taking place at such events. This bill almost made it through congress. This is what people should think about, I would imagine this guy's luck ran out and he will be gone from lots. But what if no lot can exist? And those choppers at certain venues can and do see inside your vehicles from FAR away... Its all on film, your tags, pics of everyone, everything. Why risk it all? Time to grow up, Phish is bald, they play good music, they do not want anyone harmed, at all.
Anver is obviously a taco short of a combo plate. He's got anger issues, and bad things happen in his presence and in his wake. He seems to envision himself as the misunderstood hero of the movie of his life, and it is obviously only a matter of time before he does again what he's been doing all along - visiting pain on people he decides he doesn't like.
Hey brothers and sisters! Just got a text from my bro on the Lot. DAVE IS THERE! Please be careful, watch out, and take care of each other. On way or another this darkness has got to give! Peace - Paul M.
There is a lot missing from that story. There were first-hand posts in earlier versions of the Lot Fight threads, by people who saw the entire thing go down. From everything that I have read, neither Phish nor Dave had any court authorized injunction/seizure order in place at the time of the shows at Dick's. An order in one Federal Court is only good for the specific time period set forth, usually from a day before to a few hours after the event in question. If there is a lack of Court authorization, then there is a lot of potential liability out there for what Dave did here.
According to several witnesses, while the Asian kid stepped in to question Dave's authority, Dave was the physical aggressor, hitting the kid repeatedly in the head with a walkie-talkie, well prior to even the second video, which shows Dave spraying him repeatedly with pepper spray. There is simply no justification for Dave's actions, under any circumstances here. If, as he claims, he was attacked, well then use that handy radio to call security or the cops. Dave is not a law enforcement officer, he is a former biker thug/gun salesman/black belt who overstepped the line by a country mile. [Note his threats toward Mark Zuckerberg.]
Then there is the pattern of consistent stories from other fans, about Dave's actions at other shows, all of which bear a striking resemblance to Dave's actions here. Grabbing non-infringing merch, pushing pregnant women, telling people that he "makes the laws," the guy is a real class act, and you should definitely defend him. I am not an apologist for people violating the band's legitimate trademarks, but like any civil matter, there is no room for physical violence. None.
Dave should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, and if the allegations of him hitting the kid with the walkie-talkie are true, then the charges should be raised to felony assault with a deadly weapon. After the criminal justice system is done with him, the Asian kid should sue his ass for everything he has left. Lastly, it is no small amount of ultimate ironing, that Dave has been videoed selling bootleg CDs and DVDs at some local event. It would be worth a million bucks if any one of those was of Phish.
well, the 'several witnesses' were wrong. it wasn't a walkie talkie, it was the peper spray can itself that douchebag Dave Anver knocked the kid upside the head with -- AFTER he had already pepper sprayed him and the asian kid CONTINUED to come after him (both videos show this).
further, phish did hire him and did have injunctions against this shit. you seem to really want to believe non-truths when facts are pretty clearly in front of you. Dave Anver sucks, but this Asian kid was no saint and he wasn't being chased down like people keep repeating.
Here's Anver selling bootleg material the week following all this :
Here's a better video that shows Dave pursuing and assaulting :
And here's a parody :
One more thing and I'm going to get off this topic;
Mr. Anver states he received harassing calls at a battered women's shelter where he provides " self-defense " training for free.
This is an out-right lie. Battered women's shelters are NOT listed as actual phone numbers and are very hard to find. The phone numbers you see provided by some shelters are an office line, not a line directly to the shelter. It is not public common knowledge where they are. Or who works there; for obvious reasons. The addresses listed for these shelters is always an office address as well, for more obvious reasons.
Nice try to gain some sympathy Dick, I mean Dave.
Umm lots of phone numbers listed there.
Do any of those facilities mention Dave Anver allegedly provides services there ? So how would anyone no which one he allegedly works at ? Or that he allegedly does it at all ? Someone guessed he provides "self-defense" classes for battered women ? Then magically picked the correct one he worked at, ( allegedly ) ?
Nice try to cover up a blatant lie from an obviously guilty, not to mention crazy, white trash largebody with an ego complex trying to gain sympathy by telling untruths.
The only thing you win is the FOOL OF THE DECADE award for defending this animal.
You and Charlie Sheen are WINNING together!!
I know you're not a fan, you're his son. << shit son you have taken stupid to a whole new level. You really have. First you thought I was Dave during our Fb conversation. Even after I told you I'm not Dave and to have a good fall tour, you STILL insisted I was Dave. Now you think I'm his son. Jesus, you really are one window licking idiot :)
I know you're not a fan, you're his son. Who works at Brookstone in the Lakewood mall.
The same son who bragged on FB of his dad " tenderizing a hippy ".
Bad upbringing ? That's a pot call. You're the fucking demon spawn of this bag of dicks in a Felix the cat T-shirt. Who sells bootleg material on the side when he's not stealing it from other people or lying about volunteering for battered women.
No mention of the videos still...I guess if you have nothing to say, and have been called on you shit, there isn't much to say.
Enjoy trying to fix your father's unfixable reputation. Maybe you could help him with his lawsuit against Mark Zuckerberg.
Enjoy, I'm off to Red Rocks where I'll be looking for your father, who won't be there. Ever again !! Who-hoo !
Yeah, the place you called is a battered women's shelter, but it is the office of the actual shelter. You're making yourself look REALLY dumb.
Like I said, how would anyone know he allegedly worked there ? His services are advertised NOWHERE.
Did someone have a vision that he was working at a shelter, allegedly, and in this vision they saw the specific one he worked at ?
You win at nothing besides looking like a fool who is covering for his father's outright lie.
Seriously, who does that ? " I also provide free self-defense for battered women " Right. Does he also call BINGO at retirement homes ? Or read to children at Children's Hospital ?
Just back away. It will get no better for you.
And, what about the bootleg videos ? Haven't heard you say anything about that. Still.
win again? you are defending some shit bag who has been fucking with people going to shows for over a decade. FAIL
so the link this ansbitch provided isn't to the actual shelter? its an intake hotline? fucking classic. what a noob
You just don't get it. I'm not a fan of Dave. At all. Just think you started going too far in your witch hunt.
You couldn't even admit you were wrong during one of our Fb chat. Does not surprise me you won't admit it here. Again, I blame bad upbringing.
They are numbers to intake offices clown.
Someone guessed he worked at a shelter than magically dialed the correct OFFICE LINE ?
I'm not wrong. What's more disturbing is you, for whatever reason, trying to validate his lies.
How about the bootleg videos ? Nothing to say about those huh ? You asked for them, I posted them.
How would anyone even know he allegedly provides self-defense classes at a shelter ? Someone guessed huh ?
How's the search on my information coming Mr. Wizard ?
You really have an interest in trying to make this dude look better ? Keep on trying.
You said 'Battered women's shelters are NOT listed phone numbers and are very hard to find. It is not public common knowledge where they are.'
I provided a link that showed you were wrong and have no idea what you are talking about. Man, you really have a problem with admitting you're wrong don't you? I blame bad upbringing.
do you have a job? oh my bad... it seems your job is sucking Dave's little cock( if you can call it a cock. most call it a clitoris)
i doubt you have the enough creative juices flowing in that tiny brain of yours to come up with anything clever enough to sell in the lot. but, enjoy your lunch break in the food court.
Yep, and I make quite a bit of money doing what I do. So much that I don't have to sell shitty t shirts and stickers at shows, rube. I also enjoy proving idiots wrong and this place is full of them.
Anyone remember Adam Katz? He was the young man who was beaten to death by security guards at the Meadowlands in New Jersey back in 1989. Security guards beat him to death just for being a "dirty hippy" and they tossed his body over a fence where it was found weeks later. Does Phish need an Adam Katz type death on their hands from a violent out of control turd like Dave Anver? I hope not, but keep this clown on your payroll and someone is likely to be dying to see you, literally. Do we need Dave Anver beating Phish fans to death over a stupid sticker? think about it. think long and hard Phish and Red Light Management.
Unlike the UNSOLVED MURDER of Adam Katz, this event of violence was captured for the world to see!!
We just have to pressure the DA and JUDGE to hand out the most SEVERE PENALTY to MR KUNG FU PANDA allowable by law.
I believe a 5 year stint in state prison would be sufficient
Finally. Someone pointing the finger at Phish. I mean I'm pretty sure Phish or whoever ran a background check on this clown before hiring him so they had to know about his past.
did anyone from phish beat this kid? no. do you really think trey or john give a shit if some kid is selling stickers so he can follow their band? fuck no. not to mention most of the lot tees and stickers are more creative and cooler than anything drygoods has offered. its the bureaucracy and the corporations behind these bands that hire a dick like dave.
well done. someone brings up a cohesive and common sense thought and you reply with insults. FAIL!!!! But you do have some nice melts. cheers
good one genius. falling back on mindless insults. thats what people who have no critical thinking skills do. please display your stupidity for us some more. thanks