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RightasRain 11/26/2011 6:12:00 AM
Redemption should (almost) always be an option. The fact is that the criminal justice system in this country is extrememly wayward, especially when it comes to juveniles. We say a child is not an adult until 18, but the state can charge them as adults. It makes no sense. On top of that, we're packing prisons full of people who have drug problems and mental health issues that would cost far less to treat than to incarcerate. Kudos to programs such as Peer I. Hopefully stories like Josh's will become the norm not the exception.
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11/25/2011 5:08:00 PM
It blames all of its lifes problems on someone else and turns Everything into something Racial...
Half_the_man_I_used_to_be: What more pseudo-clever statements can I make and have people actually l'like' them.
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Cbiriajon 11/19/2011 10:12:00 AM
Josh Beckius saw the truth inside of himself inside of a 6 by 8 foot cell. Smart kid. Inside and outside of prison, there will always be those full of hate and empty personal lives wanting to see more revenge and violence to perpetuate.
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11/13/2011 2:04:00 PM
Well, in my opinion, alluding to the current "president" compared to just saying President Obama, is the same thing at this time. Consider the fact we only have had one "Black...president", and therefore are talking about one person, in particular, not just any of the OTHER black presidents that apparently BIKESRULE remembers.
But you are correct, technically. The distinction I'm talking about can be argued either way, which i was aware of when I commented, so touche', one grammar nazi to another ;^p
And you are correct. In my opinion those all just excuses for more forms of bigotry, in disguises as "reasons". BUT, I will admit, that I have never claimed philosophy as my professional career, and am pretty certain I'd never make money at it anyway. You should try my croissants though. My treat...
George Santayana was right when he said people who don't remember their history are compelled to repeat it.
What exactly is a good reason for racism in our world, historically, geographically, or in the social demographically way of looking at things? (I'm not accusing you of being a racist/racism with this question, but for someone who feels compelled to correct me, I'd like to get a follow up on your line of thought)
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11/07/2011 7:19:00 AM
What kind of idiot law maker writes a law that encourages people not to back out of conspracies??? We need a constitutional amendment that adresses beligerent nonsense like this. Another one: in California if you realize that you're too drunk to drive, whatever you do, don't pull over to sleep it off. A cop sees you sleeping, smells the booze, and you're busted for "driving" under the influence. Nope, just keep going and try to make it home in one piece. Idiots!
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11/06/2011 3:13:00 AM
He didn't pull the trigger
Everyone deserves a second chance.
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Cheap & Easy 11/01/2011 11:39:00 PM
It can't make you dance, jump, or think rationally. Good luck, and stay away from those submarines with the screen doors.
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fangfang 11/01/2011 12:47:00 AM
Josh Beckius - Your new life is waiting for you. You are not alone.
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10/31/2011 6:53:00 PM
The word 'president' does not need to be capitalized unless you're talking about the President as a person, not as a concept. Don't correct people if you're incorrect. Aside from that, you're a horrible philosopher. You just tried to explain racism as a situational problem without mentioning history, geography or social demographics. As such, you have absolutely ZERO idea what you're talking about. Happy Halloween.
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10/31/2011 2:11:00 PM
Ok, you capitalize "Black", but not "president". Your spelling is atrocious (in this day of automatic spell check, a second ago I wasn't sure about how to spell "atrocious", and LOOK, I got it right AGAIN!), but yet we're supposed to take the context of what you're saying as intelligent (spell check working hard today...).
Now that I'm done being a grammar Nazi.
WTF does your neighbors legal issues have to do with this jackass being an obvious racist? The only correlation that I see is the one you are drawing between their (assumed) skin color.
Racism is an issue every "skin color" has, and if y'all were to pay a little attention to the fact, it goes beyond that. Fear, jealousy, and stupidity are the real culprits, and as long as people keep playing "racist" games, they're showing exactly what they're really made of.
(And just so it's clear, I'm a little bit o' everything, call me what you will. Doesn't matter because I'll know the truth of the situation.)
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10/31/2011 1:47:00 PM
OJ got away with murder, but he can't turn sunlight into vitamin D. Must have been a fluke.... moron
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10/31/2011 12:50:00 AM
Yeah Black skin only gets you elected president. and lets you win the Nobel Peace prize for nothing. That brown skin is nice too. Had a niebor got drunk shot up the other neibors house (wrong house he intended even, this one just had a white family and nobody got hurt in 17 rounds) and only spent 2 weeks in jail total was considered a PV for the Felony porole he was already on. Sure am glad only white skins are the only ones that have a rasism problem.
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10/29/2011 11:22:00 PM
White skin can also get you elected district attorney so you can send all the children of color to prison.
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10/29/2011 11:15:00 PM
So high minded. Go see your local district attorney. They'll get you deputized for the lynch mob that they call "justice." ...that is if you aren't a member of COVA already.
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10/29/2011 8:16:00 PM
It can make Vitamin D out of sunlight and you can get away with murder.
White skin: Is there anything it can't do?
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10/29/2011 5:57:00 PM
Fry em!
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10/29/2011 2:25:00 PM
"...but if it wasn't for those experiences, I don't think I would be the person that I am today. And I like who I am today."
I know this statement... I've said it myself, so many times...
It's something that is said by a person who, at a previous time, wouldn't have been able to say the same thing.
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10/28/2011 11:31:00 PM
I've known Tim and Kathy since 1996 and have heard them speak of this topic often. This is such a breakthrough for them. They are very good people and I am glad things are beginning to work out.
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Raymond 10/28/2011 5:33:00 PM
Juliet,
A story well written and in the reading of this story about a man I came to know when I hired him to work where I worked, I found it a pleasure to speak with him. Having been amazed at the advances in the criminal justice system over the years, my research prompted me to first contact you about this story because I could feel inside that this was someone who let the system help him. Josh is proof positive that if somebody wants to make changes in their life they can. Shortly, I will complete my Masters Degree in Criminal Justice and must say that I am inspired by Josh. I applaud him and the Colorado Department of Corrections on a job well done.
Ray Mallette
Benson, Vermont.
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10/28/2011 3:47:00 PM
we'd like to publish some of these comments in our print letters to the editor section, ideally with your name/town. If that's okay, e-mail patricia.calhoun@westword.com
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10/28/2011 1:25:00 AM
Bill:
I'm not sure we're reading the same article. There is a great deal of sympathy expressed in this article for Mr. James. I, personally, am deeply moved by Mr. James story and I regret that his life was taken. The man who took his life is serving a very long prison sentence.
That man was not Josh Beckius. In fact, Josh Beckius wasn't a man at all when Mr. James' life was taken. He was a child who served 18 years in adult prison for his negligible role in a botched robbery.
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Bill 10/28/2011 12:32:00 AM
Goog too hear he is doing so well, but what about the person he killed. What about the family who loved and respected him? There is no sorrow for him in this article. Society did not let him down, he let him self down.
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10/27/2011 7:41:00 PM
So what you are saying is that when you were 14, you knew just as much as you do/did at 44?? we all make mistakes, and hopefully we learn from them!! I agree that some cant be reformed, but seriously dont you think a 14 year old could have just been in a bad spot mentally???
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10/27/2011 7:35:00 PM
How many people have you hung out with who told you they were criminals? Or who even saw themselves that way? Kids, in particular, don't always have a good sense of the intentions of those they befriend.
Should we just tell them not to befriend anybody?
I don't think I'm the one ranting, but please continue. I enjoy it when vengeful zealots sputter lame excuses for why we ought to send children to hell for being children.
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10/27/2011 7:20:00 PM
Here's a jolt of reality for you. http://politivisor.com/?p=91
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10/27/2011 7:09:00 PM
See my blog on this subject. I understand felony murder, I just didn't understand the intent of the people I was hanging out with at the time. http://politivisor.com/?p=100
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10/27/2011 6:25:00 PM
on fire you are not alone.Hanging out with the wrong people is a learning experience for the majority of young people.It landed me in jail when i was 18yr.luckily the police knew i didnt know the man i was hanging with and let me go,but my girlfriend was on probation so it wasnt that easy for her.young people never think this will happen to them.Be careful of the crowd you hang with.
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A jolt of realism 10/27/2011 4:06:00 PM
Easy way to avoid this....don't hang out with criminals. You act like your situation is common and could happen to anyone. The truth is that it isn't and it couldn't. And you obviously don't understand felony murder. It doesn't apply to people who are just "sitting there." But please, don't let a complete lack of knowledge prevent you from ranting. Most people do not.
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10/27/2011 1:54:00 PM
Hmmm I was wondering if you were a giant d-bag, turns out you are.... Thanks for clearing that up Midorie.
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10/27/2011 3:54:00 AM
Felony murder is bullsh*t.
I remember one night when I was 14. My friends and I were being harassed at a local coffee shop by a bunch of older kids. It was my first night out after moving to Denver and I barely knew the people I was with. All of a sudden one of the guys in my group pulled out a gun and tried to hand it to me under the table, looked at me and said, "if they make a move." I didn't take the gun, but if the guy I was with had decided to use it, I would have rotted for a couple of decades...for sitting there. I was stupid for hanging out with those kids and I didn't hang out with them again. I got lucky. Beckius didn't.
I'll say it again: Felony murder is bullsh*t
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10/27/2011 3:20:00 AM
Beckius didn't kill anyone. He got caught up as a lookout for a robbery that went bad. Saying that he should spend most of his life in prison for being there when someone else pulled a trigger is like saying that I'm a victim because I know someone who was sexually assaulted. What Beckius did was wrong, but holding him responsible for murder is just ridiculous.
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T Go 10/26/2011 8:21:00 PM
I Worked at that same place where he is staying, in the Peer 1 therapeutic community, right next to the Fort Logan mental health services hospital. AS a former case manager of those inmates there, there were only a couple of the inmates who had murder charges that were 25-30 years back. With that, those men had been removed 25-30 years out of our society and were in a massive state of shock, confusion and in denial as to there awareness of what our society has become. This half-way house is designed to whip him into shape and get him used to a hierarchy structure of responsibility and accountability, of both his peers and the outside. This is a military style of discipline designed to gain the maximum amount of response out of the indivdual. I've seen scores of people who'd dropped out of the program, serving a couple to a few years in jail, because they couldn't handle the discipline, preferred to "do their time" instead, because it was easier. Getting through this program says something about this man's commitment to moving on with his life.
But It's going to take the rest of his life getting used to being an adult outside of the big house.
This guy has lost most of his social life, being locked away as he is in great need of being socially re-developed. He still has the grace of youth on his side, but he will never become "normal". IIt's going to take a lifetime of therapy to get him conformed into the real world we're in. He will always be living in an incarcerated mindset, one that is based on basic survival and prison behavior.
That bit on him sitting in the coffee shop, was a big deal for him - One that most people reading this story would think "Why the hell is he at a starbucks, blocks away from the scene of the crime he committed almost 20 years ago?!?"
Certainly this is the case of the family of the slain victim. And I agree, the victim can't get another chance, why does he? He is extremely lucky that he has had the opportunity to work at a tire shop. THat's probably as good as his life is going to get.
This guy is the classic example of a youth who's had no parents there to provide his guidance. No one taught him right or wrong, he only learned survival based out of anger and fear. His parents should have been brought on charges for his crimes. No one ever talked about that??
That is the real injustice here. How a teenager can commit unthinkable crimes and the parents, who are solely responsible for this guy's developement aren/weren't ever in question.
We need to start focusing as much energy on the source of the problem and not only focusing on the after-the-fact effects of the crime committed. My heart goes to the daughters of that man killed, I hope they came to a place in their hearts of forgiveness, acceptance, and resolution.
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Justsayin 10/26/2011 8:01:00 PM
or if you didn't actually kill someone you don't have to do the time either.
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Kitanmo 10/26/2011 7:27:00 PM
I hope you walk a very straight road......for one day, you may need a friend when everyone else says "he made a bad choice, f**k him"
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10/26/2011 6:26:00 PM
I swear every Westword story is always about some criminal that the rest of the world is supposed to now feel sorry for...it's always how "the system let this person down", how "questionable evidence" or "inconclusive investigations" are always to blame, but never the criminal himself. This publication just needs to bill itself as "Criminals Need Your Love". The guy was involved in a MURDER, he made the choices that got him there, and made plently of bad ones as he himself states. It doesn't matter if he was 14 or 44...period. So quit trying to elicit sympathy for these people who rob, steal, maim, and kill. How about from now on, you instead publish multipage articles about the true VICTIMS in these crimes, instead of about the losers who commit them?!!
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10/26/2011 6:18:00 PM
Too bad the nice man he murdered doesn't get a second chance. I guess if you study and get your GED and some college credits you don't have to do the time.