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Readers sound off on scientology, atheism and Occupy Denver

"PrayPal," Jenny An, November 17

Bible Bytes

All religions are based completely on ignorance: "I don't know/understand, so God must be responsible."

Scientology doesn't even mention Overlord Xenu until you've invested thousands of dollars, simply because of how outlandishly stupid the story is. Mormons actually believe Joseph Smith pulled the story out of a hat, instead of his ass. Christians believe their god is "loving," despite the Bible's story of him murdering thousands of innocent people (twice).

It goes on and on and on — all beliefs based on made-up stories, assumptions and ignorance.

Lance Newcomb

Federal Heights

Atheism is based on irrationality: "I cannot see, touch, smell or hear something that is, by definition of being supernatural, beyond that which can be seen, touched, smelt or heard, so it must not exist." It is also based on a similarly unprovable assumption: "Only matter and energy exist." Then add the fact that most atheists do not follow their beliefs to their logical conclusions. If they did, they would have to admit that they consider rape, murder, stealing, etc., "wrong" only out of personal preference or because they believe "might makes right," not because those acts are objectively immoral.

Atheism: "irrationality in the name of reason."

Dennis Erford

Findlay, Ohio

I don't see how Scientology can be classed as anything spiritual. One only needs to read a little of the history of that "religion" to quickly realize that it is nothing more than a pyramid-style business scheme posing as a religion (and behaving like a cult).

Jonathan van der Berg

Posted at westword.com


"Keeping Occupied," Kelsey Whipple, November 17

Occupied Denver

I have read several articles on your Westword blog by Kelsey Whipple. I find her stories inflammatory and one-sided. She seems to intentionally choose quotes that contain profanity or sexual innuendo. My husband has attended the Occupy Denver protest on five different days and has found the crowd peaceful and earnest — not primarily the extremist or violent agitators that she seems to be looking for. I think she is not a seasoned writer, and this story should be covered by your very best.

Maureen Maker

Denver

Just wanted to say thank you to Westword and Kelsey Whipple for the great job you are doing in reporting the activities at Occupy Denver. Westword is Denver's only newspaper.

Gerald Trumbule Denver

Editor's note: To read Kelsey Whipple's ongoing coverage of Occupy Denver, as well as additional stories on the protests, go to the Latest Word at westword.com.


"A Live One!" Laura Shunk, November 17

The Unkindest Cut

I think this review of Land of Sushi is horrifying and disgusting. Live scallops? Are you next going to invite Gordon Ramsay over to eat still-beating hearts of animals? Laura Shunk is an absolutely disappointing reviewer and Westword has lost my support. Permanently.

Ellen Kessler

Denver

I'm so happy to see Land of Sushi here! They always have the best service, and their specials are absolutely mind-blowing. The quality is phenomenal; it's unpretentious and affordable. If you go, be sure to try the hamachi orange roll or the bluefin tuna/avocado sashimi with citrus/soy dressing — amazing. After all these years of serving the finest sushi, they really deserve this recognition.

Joe Wadsworth

Denver

 
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Mike Nugent
Mike Nugent

These religious arguments are such childish gibberish. Religion is no more based entirely on ignorance than science is on an irrational need to "touch" god. Life, the universe, and everything does not care one iota whether you understand it objectively or by using stories. It all, simply, IS. Your job, whether you accept it or not, is to get in line with it and quit acting like children, else be subject to the one de facto function of a perfect universe- crushing lies and delusions..

Ronbot Hunter
Ronbot Hunter

The Godless Cult of Sin and Greed is all that we Ex-Scientologists claim it is.1. It kills, beats up, harms, harasses, stalks, and in always possible victimizes any ex-member and anyone else that opposes their evil agenda.2. In the Sea Org., it forces its slave members to get abortions. It kills innocent babies so the mother can be more productive as a low paid slave.3. It uses its slaves to repair the new bought buildings with money you have donated, which remain nearly empty years later, for pennies an hour. Its non-volunteer contracted workers get the lowest wages (.10 to .40 cents an hour) in the civilized world and work the longest (70-80) hours.4. It exposes all your own sins and secrets in your endless Security Checks and/or required non-voluntary confessionals to bring you harm and destroy you, when you expose their evil Godless agenda and policy letters.5. It has its own prison camp (The Rehabilitation Project Force, or RPF-- punishment duty for unsatisfactory workers and children) with Ronbot guards with automatic assault weapons, where you are sent if you fail to be very productive or angry or upset with your slavery. Slaves are not allowed to voluntarily leave or even escape and will be shot if they try. 95% of the slaves that finally are allowed to leave, soon leave the cult. The other 5% are sent to “fair game” the rest.6. It has broken up hundreds of thousands of families by their Godless policies of Disconnection and Fair Game. Many parents have committed suicide after losing their kids.7. If you oppose them, the Godless cult sends their slaves to your neighbors, job, relatives and friends to ask questions in such a way, that makes them think you are a rapist, criminal, sociopath, drug addict, child molester, Gay or Lesbian or a deviant, without any proof or verified criminal complaint. They use this Godless tactic to ruin you, cause you to get fired, and cause your friends and relatives to avoid you or even intentionally cause you to commit suicide. 8. As a last resort they will poison your pets or let them loose to get run over, break into your house for any evidence to blackmail you, plant drugs in your car or house or hit you to make you retaliate and film you when you do, and then they will sue you and/or have you arrested. There are hundreds of other reasons to run from this Godless cult. But I think you get an idea of its evil.Please help us Independent Scientologists to bring back ethics, humanity, compassion, honesty and integrity back into the group. Help us stop them!!! Note! all the above has been verified as true over the years by Governments and hundreds of thousands of Ex-Scientologists.THE RONBOT HUNTERALL RIGHTS RESERVED

Dan Courtney
Dan Courtney

Ref: "Atheism is based on irrationality"...the term supernatural means outside of nature. Atheists simply ask for evidence that your claimed supernatural being has some connection with the natural world. That connection or interaction would itself be natural. Since I have never been presented with any compelling evidence, it is perfectly rational that I would reject your claim. If, however, your god is forever confined to the supernatural, then how is it that you would propose to demonstrate its existence? It seems to me the theist position is irrational.

paul
paul

Well said!

“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” ― Christopher Hitchens.

 
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