Ask a Stoner: Can the registry stop me from buying a firearm?

Dear Stoner: I recently moved to the state and was denied the purchase of a firearm by a local dealer. I have no criminal record, and the only possible answer would be that the CBI is cross-checking the registry.

Shotgun Willie

Dear Willie: With a huge rush on gun sales lately, you're probably not the only MMJ patient in a similar situation. So we sent your question over to the CBI, which tells us that "CBI does not cross-check the registry to conduct the background check for firearms purchases. I'm not sure why this person was denied, but this is not something we check as part of the background-check process." So apparently it isn't your medical ganja that worries them. Give it some thought: Did you recently order forty pounds of fertilizer or bulk crates of armor-piercing bullets to be delivered to your secluded compound in the mountains that you refuse to pay taxes on? [Cue spooky music.] If the answer is no, then the denial could be due to the several-month backlog and huge amount of pressure on the limited staff doing the checks. We suggest that you have a bowl, obsessively clean the guns you do own, and reapply in a few months.

Dear Stoner: Your suggestion in the December 27 column that Kind Kid get his parents stoned, then feed them crackers secretly pasted with hot pepper in return for all the years of grief they gave him for smoking pot, was a buzzkill. William, you missed it. What a perfect opportunity to introduce parents — or anyone, for that matter — to the respectable pleasures of a good buzz and possibly foster a lifelong appreciable relationship. Spiking your parents' food to pay them back — really? Getting high was and is still illegal under federal law. Need we remind you, people are currently serving time in prison for possession of small amounts of marijuana. Having a federal prison record is not a good thing. The parents were doing what every respectable parent would do: encouraging their children to stay out of jail. People are still on the fence about the consequence of legalizing marijuana. Encouraging anyone to poison someone as a gag is unconscionable. This article is giving ammunition for the continued Prohibition.

Serious Smoker

Dear Serious: Here's my advice: Smoke a joint. It might help you find the sense of humor you've apparently lost somewhere along the way. Just beware of friends offering you Wheat Thins when you get hungry.

 
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the420rev
the420rev

no they deny you, if you declare you are a mmj patient, like i did, not through cross checking, the fucking credit check and back ground check by the Colorado Dept of Rev, is what flaggs people

CoreyDonahue
CoreyDonahue

"CBI does not cross-check the registry to conduct the background check for firearms purchases. I'm not sure why this person was denied, but this is not something we check as part of the background-check process."

Come on Will.  You fucking kidding us? 

The Colorado Bureau of Investigations and the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment are tentatively set to meet next week to discuss a computer system that tracks Colorado medical marijuana patients for law enforcement.

http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2012/05/medical_marijuana_patient_tracking_program_moving_forward.php

If that 
is the case, would the law prevent any database "fishing" expeditions from taking place? Officials last week confirmed that patients would not be auto-flagged in background searches -- but thus far, Medina hasn't responded to our requests for clarification on this additional point. We'll update when we find out more.

http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2012/06/marijuana_patient_registry_firearms_database.php

Mark Ewell
Mark Ewell

In all seriousness, the person who was denied should just contact the CBI. They will tell him why his specific application was denied - sometimes they make a denial and it's a mistake.

the420rev
the420rev

we are not users of illegal drugs, we are "Ultimate Users" federally legal, the license does not stop you from getting a gun, unless you disclose it... BUT it seems the state's background and credit check, for mmj people and employees, are flagging people (illegally) and then they are using the flag to deny you illegally, and unjustifiably. My federal suit over this will be filled next week. It is even worse, My whole family is being discriminated in wyoming at mine and my kids old school, multiple jobs and financing requests, Just because i am an mmj patient

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

Under Federal code it's unlawful for a user of illegal drugs, or an addict of any controlled substance, legal or not -- marijuana included -- to purchase or possess a firearm or ammunition.

... whether you stoners pass the background check or not. 

And if you get busted with drugs AND guns, you're looking at an EXTRA mandatory 5 years in prison just for having the firearm around.

Follow the legally ignorant and incomplete advice of Ask a Stoner at your personal peril.

Why is Westword publishing Legal Advice / Analysis from a non-lawyer dope-smoking stoner ?



BackOffImStarving
BackOffImStarving topcommenter

Don't roll a J or touch your stash after cleaning/handling/using firearms or ammunition without scrubbing the hands first with Lava Soap or Gojo Orange Pumice Hand Cleaner.  Lead poisoning is bad.

the420rev
the420rev

as they know the rev dept only does that shit for marijuana and alcohol licenses, if we dont own a bar... they know we are in the mmj industry

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@CoreyDonahue ... what IDIOTS would take Legal Advice from a self-described STONER?

Might as well ASK A CRACK WHORE for legal advice.


DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@Mark Ewell ... and be sure to ask CBI if a habitual user of illegal drugs -- marijuana -- can legally purchase or possess a firearm or ammunition.


stillwhatever
stillwhatever

Better yet, why are you here reading it?  You should try and make some friends instead.

whatever
whatever

Under "Federal Code" (as if that actually means something), its also illegal to smoke pot.  Looks like our "give a fuck" is broken, huh?

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

@whatever

On November 21, Luke Scarmazzo and Ricardo Montes were sentenced in the Eastern District of California to 262 months and 240 months imprisonment, respectively.  [ that's 20+ years for you brain dead stoners ]

A forfeiture judgment of $8.89 million was imposed.  Scarmazzo and Montes were convicted on May 15 of engaging in a Continuing Criminal Enterprise, possession with intent to distribute marijuana, and firearms charges.  

Scarmazzo and Montes operated California Healthcare Collective, a medical marijuana dispensary, in Modesto, California, from where they sold marijuana to approximately 400 customers per day, exceeding $9 million in drug proceeds.  This 34-month investigation resulted in the arrest of nine individuals, and the seizure of 1,000 marijuana plants, $330,000 in U.S. currency, and 11 firearms.

10 YEARS for the 1,000 plants MANDATORY and 10 YEARS CONSECUTIVE for the Guns!

Ignore the Law at your own peril, you clueless bongsucking stoner -- these fools did - http://www.canorml.org/costs/federal_medical_marijuana_prisoners_and_cases


stillwhatever
stillwhatever

"Unjust laws exist: shall we be content to obey them, or shall we endeavor to amend them, and obey them until we have succeeded, or shall we transgress them at once?”

Thats exactly what we will do; ignore them.  You, sir, do not possess 1/10th the intellectual capacity that I (the clueless bongsucking stoner who is more successful, makes more money and has a better, happier life than you) or many of my like-minded friends/acquiantances has been blessed with.  Keep living your life, and we will keep living ours.  You do not have the power of influence, and you have proven yourself incompetent.  Just keep doing what you're told, and when you look back from your death bed at the pile of shit that you were fed, you will know you were wrong. 

 
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