Ask a Stoner: How do I get off the MMJ registry?

Dear Stoner: Is there a mechanism — like a process or a form — to remove one's name from the registry once the red card has expired?  I've asked quite a few people, including a local marijuana attorney's office, and nobody seems to be able to give me a straight answer.

Apprehensive Allan

Dear AA: We pitched your question to the folks at the medical marijuana registry, who tell us that getting your name off of the active registry list is as easy as completing a Request to Surrender Registry Card and sending it in to the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment. The form (mmr1007) is on the MMJ registry website. You can also call the MMJ registry and they'll mail you a copy. But all that does is change your status from active to inactive.

So apparently the answer to your question is no. According to Mark Salley, CDPHE spokesman, your name stays on the historical MMJ registry database indefinitely. Salley noted, however, that those records remain confidential, only accessible to law enforcement in very specific circumstances.

Dear Readers: Last week, we posted a reply to Lightweight, who said that all of the marijuana he was smoking these days was too strong — way stronger than the "good old pot" he puffed back in the day. While we suggested that he give some low-potency strains or smoke shake a try, others suggested online that he simply develop the tolerance he probably never had in the first place. Our favorite response came from grower and regular Westword commenter Monkey:

"I have thirty-, twenty-, and seventeen-year-old strains currently growing. Clones from clones with no degeneration so many incompetent growers speak of. I hate to tell you, Lightweight, but they are just as strong as the new-school mislabeled strains of today. It sounds like back in the day, you were smoking seeded, kilo pressed Mexican weed. But many others were smoking the same strains I grow today, and experienced the same potency even back in the '80s. My suggestion, for what it's worth: Break up a little reefer and mix it with tobacco, like the Europeans. You won't get as high, and it will still probably taste better than Mexican brick weed."

 
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moreinfomred
moreinfomred

How can the "favorite" advice to a medical patient be a suggestion to smoke tobacco!?! THAT is absurd.

By the ticket, take the ride.

Tommy Thomas
Tommy Thomas

I am a smoker, who... Once the law went into effect, I realized the scam.  Now the cops can and will check your blood thc levels.  Now, insurance will get involved.  If you signed up for a Med Card, you just put yourself on a gov list.  (wether you have a legit reason or not.)  We all just put ourselves under a huge microscope.  Last, but not least... decent weed used to be affordable.  Now its freakin' expensive!!!  WTF??  We all just drove up the cost.  BTW, its not more potent.  It just tastes better.

In conclusion, taking all these things into account.  I stopped smoking this stuff a year ago.

By the way... I agree it should be legal to sell in liquor stores/tobacco stores.  Just leave us alone like you leave alcoholics and tobacco smokers alone.

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

Dear Stoner,

Marijuana McLawyer Christian Sederberg and Michael Roberts claim there are "128 eighths in an ounce". 

Westweed has published that assertion at least twice, without correction or explanation.

Is this the some new Stoner math, or the same old Stoners + Math = FAIL ?

Your Pal,

 Pythagoras Hotay

muzzylu
muzzylu

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tutonehcc
tutonehcc topcommenter

Only a mad man would put his name on the registry and pay for the experience.  Only a deranged lunatic would step foot in a dispensary, infested with mold, ecoli,bothchalism.  That's right people every edible you eat is loaded with ecoli and botchalism because unlike you were promised there is nothing even remotely close to a protective testing system of edibles in this State of marijuana madness.


All that Froggy and Twirling garbage is created in the ideal environment for Botulism and stored in the perfect container to thrive and kill you.

http://www.ext.colostate.edu/pubs/foodnut/09305.html

CoreyDonahue
CoreyDonahue

¨your name stays on the historical MMJ registry database indefinitely. Salley noted, however, that those records remain confidential, only accessible to law enforcement in very specific circumstances.¨

Yeah like when they share it with the FBI and the CBI not to mention local law enforcement.

CoreyDonahue
CoreyDonahue

¨your name stays on the historical MMJ registry database indefinitely. Salley noted, however, that those records remain confidential, only accessible to law enforcement in very specific circumstances.¨

Yeah like when they share it with the FBI and the CBI not to mention local law enforcement.

CoreyDonahue
CoreyDonahue

your name stays on the historical MMJ registry database indefinitely. Salley noted, however, that those records remain confidential, only accessible to law enforcement in very specific circumstances.

Yeah like when they share it with the FBI and the CBI not to mention local law enforcement.

CoreyDonahue
CoreyDonahue

¨your name stays on the historical MMJ registry database indefinitely. Salley noted, however, that those records remain confidential, only accessible to law enforcement in very specific circumstances.¨

Yeah like when they share it with the FBI and the CBI not to mention local law enforcement

CoreyDonahue
CoreyDonahue

¨your name stays on the historical MMJ registry database indefinitely. Salley noted, however, that those records remain confidential, only accessible to law enforcement in very specific circumstances.¨

Yeah like when they share it with the FBI and the CBI not to mention local law enforcement.

CoreyDonahue
CoreyDonahue

¨your name stays on the historical MMJ registry database indefinitely. Salley noted, however, that those records remain confidential, only accessible to law enforcement in very specific circumstances.¨

Yeah like when they share it with the FBI and the CBI not to mention local law enforcement.

Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

Oh, that's precious! I deliberately did not renew the red card years ago because of the clusterfuck going on in the statehouse, and now the implication is I'm still on their list anyway. I don't give a rat's ass how "confidential" their list is, it's only a matter of time, with it no longer in only the health department's hands, that it's going to be abused.

I smell a big, stinking, nasty law suit.

HB420
HB420

I just read last weeks article and I agree with Monkey, the guy is misremembering or was smoking schwag back in the day and now because he has access to the good stuff thinks everything is too strong. No, what is happening is now he is getting the better weed that was available back then, but you had to "know a guy" or something to have it.  If he wants to smoke less potent cannabis definitely seek out the schwag, although even that is going to be strong for him at first, but at least it will help him to develop a tolerance.

Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

@tutonehcc Not true. At the time, the list was protected by a single person who had integrity. As soon as it was apparent that would no longer be true, I quit the red card business. For the record, dispensaries didn't exist at the time, at least not licensed ones, and I never visited any others.

On your paranoia, no government "protective testing system" ever worked, which is why ever summer there is a big scare. If it worked, there would be none. The government isn't up to the job.

I make edibles from my own plants, and I have no idea what "Froggy and Twirling garbage" is.

Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

In essence, the only reason to keep names on the list for years after they're not current cardholders is to mark them as evil pot "patients." (Quoted to show their perspective.) I may still be a patient, but it's no longer any of their business, per A20. Old cardholders should be automatically expunged from the list, at least at some reasonable point (a year after not re-registering?)

BackOffImStarving
BackOffImStarving topcommenter

@Cognitive_Dissident You still have plausible deniability if applying for a CCW or a background check if you've let your card expire and/or have filled out a Request to Surrender form.

tutonehcc
tutonehcc topcommenter

@Cognitive_Dissident From the link I provided, it was the second Consumer Safety/Social Issue Working group which looking at the site right now I see they have removed as well as the first Consumer Safety recording.  Those recordings were there last week, but now Consumer Safety recordings are the only 2 missing.  I wonder if it's because of the highly controversial nature of the subject matter related to current nasty edibles on the shelves.

Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

@tutonehcc Of course, my intent wasn't to get you to process anything you buy.

It seems uncertain how they're introducing the botulism, but I suspect it has to do with items being vacuum-packed, which is, ironically, for safety and freshness.

Yeah. I did get off the registry, but I'm still curious about this guy's spiel.

To which date for 'Consumer Safety' are you referring?

tutonehcc
tutonehcc topcommenter

@Cognitive_Dissident OK, next time I buy a brownie I'll be sure to boil it for 20 minutes.  This article is about the mmj registry, you are not on the registry, and my warning is for those on the registry.  My goal is to convince others to get off the registry and not buy edibles from the dispensaries.  The packaging is what causes the botchalism, not the weed itself.  I believe we are on the same page and it sounds like you're growing and cookling at home should afford you immunity from the larger social and immune health consequences surrounding dispensaries.

Cognitive_Dissident
Cognitive_Dissident topcommenter

@tutonehcc @Cognitive_Dissident The link you provided above indicates boiling for 20 minutes. I boil my butter MUCH longer than that, then freeze it, and bake at 350º. I don't know how "bad" edibles are prepared.

To which date for 'Consumer Safety' are you referring?

 
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