Ask a Stoner: Now that the THC driving bill passed, should I just sell my car?

Dear Stoner: With the recent passing of the five-nanogram driving limit for THC, I'm worried that even while sober, as a regular smoker I'll technically be over the limit. Should I sell my car and resign myself to public transportation?

16L4Life

Dear Sixteen: The new five-nanogram law is unscientific bullshit. And, yes, it could very easily lead to someone getting a pot DUI who doesn't deserve it; there are some major problems with the measure that need to be addressed. But I don't know what's more dangerous: taking the Colfax bus daily or risking a DUI like you've been risking your whole stoner life when you've driven with any THC in your system.

See, it's not like you couldn't have picked up a pot DUI during the past few years. In fact, even without blood limits, the cops had a 90 percent conviction rate. I had a roommate who was convicted of a marijuana DUI back in 2005 just for having a half-cashed bowl in his glove compartment. No blood test needed.

So would a regular traffic stop for speeding or running a yellow light automatically mean you would be getting a pot DUI? Not necessarily It's probably not much more likely than before. Just be smart and don't drive around with pipes stinking up your ride or smoke spliffs at traffic lights. Most important, don't be high. We're not advocating driving while under the influence of anything — just telling you to use your noodle when you enjoy a few recreational tokes.

Dear Stoner: I'm an old pothead from back in the '70s. Things have obviously changed a lot since then, and I am blown away by the different types of pot available now. Back then we had average pot or the great stuff called Acapulco Gold. Is there a catalogue or something that explains all the different pot strains and what they are good for?

JR

Dear JR: There's a smuggler's load of resources out there on different strains (including Acapulco Gold), both online and in print. For your coffee table, you should pick up Jason King's Cannabible, volumes one through three. Or check out The Big Book of Buds series or S.T. Oner's Essential Guide books on indica and sativas — both available through the Denver Public Library. Internet-wise, check out kindreviews.com, which has strain info and some really nice close-up pot-porn pics. Leafly.com is another resource worth checking out, though it doesn't have photos.

 
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Juan_Leg
Juan_Leg

Stuka1 may rent it out for a place to live . Do you have WI-Fi near ?

shamanhawk
shamanhawk

Where there is a Front, there is a Back. - I Ching  Cause meet Effect.  A-64 rules will COST the State money.   And cost many Coloradans their jobs!!!!!! 

Look at the price of Medical Marijuana.  How much of that is overhead cost by the States Rules?  A lot.  Wait in line?  Please!  How long is the line at the liquor store except before a Broncos game?  

Does any idiot actually think you''re gonna buy a cigarette pack of OG Kush?  Maybe if you are flush with cash from your phoney 501(c)-4 Tea Party Patriots account you could afford the $1,000 bucks.  Of course, you can't have a gun to protect yourself from robbery so who's gonna carry it, 7/11?  Don't think so Rand.  This is how these people think!

0.0000000005 Grams.  What's that, about 1 (3.2) Miller Light.  I probably have that in my bloodstream from the '60's.  Obama HAS to be stoned to let this Schedule 1 insanity exist in 2013.  Remember, these Laws were made to keep Blacks and Mexicans in chain gangs in the South.  I lived there and saw them.  Then Nixon the Crook blew it up to keep Blacks and Hippies down to not protest the Viet Nam War.  It turned out the Vets all came back smoking weed they got there.  Thai Sticks?   LOL

Bottom line, this is Political Oppression.  A breach of Independence and Liberty.  How come George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were growing it, because "Hemp Can Save the World" (see documentary).  It's a breach of your Civil Liberties! 

Hey "Stoner"?  Why hasn't Gov. Hickenlooper given pardons to any prisoners who are in jail for before A-64 was passed carrying an ounce or less.  Or, for that matter, Medical  Marihuana (j/?).  $27,500.00 a year to keep them pounding rocks.  How you like that taxpayers?  There's money for "education".  We could start with the damn Legislature.

Juan_Leg
Juan_Leg

YES !

Before the market gets saturated w/ used cars for sale .

Example : Look how weed prices went crashing sown following similar circumstances ......

I'm still extremely curios if the fuel prices will be reflective in Colorado, when 1/3 of it's drivers are now FORCED to utilize alternative forms of transportation once they have had their license taken after smoking a bowl or two, a cpl of days earlier....

shamanhawk
shamanhawk

Search Youtube for local FOX31 BIAS broadcast!

Fox News Caught Faking Again : Drivers On Cannabis 

Then search this BIASED one in Washington:

Stoned Drivers Hit Test Course as seen on Kiro 7 Olympia,WA Thurston County 

BOTH PROVE even with HIGH levels of THC the actual Cannabis users had NO Problem driving.  

This proves that this Law is totally UNSCIENTIFIC and should never have been made to begin with.  See the Distracted Drivers study I posted.  That was done by the Federal Government!  What's next, you have to put a camera in your car to prove you are driving safely so you can win a Court case?  This is surreal when the Governor has a business that allows people to get DUI and leave to go drive home but signs this bogus Bill.  Is anyone enraged.  Hey, folks.  I don't drive!  I just know bullshit when I see it.  

Do the searches and watch and make up your own mind.  Remember, it's still FOX! roflmfao

hmmmm
hmmmm

Better than AZ. 0 tolerance for metabolites including MMJ regardless of what the law might state to the contrary as the officer can always say "tongue looked green" or any other fabrication. I've always said the man who will make the most money here is the one who comes up with the over the counter test which states clearly under or over 5ng/ml. Hope they hurry up with that one.

shamanhawk
shamanhawk

I do not condone driving "stoned",BUT, the problem lies in 5ng "out of a clear Colorado sky" limit they set that will STAY IN your body fat.  Hence you could be completely normal and still get your life ruined.  DUI's  can do that.  Lose your job, bankrupt you, destroy your family and incarcerate you for the State Cost of $27,500.00 a year in a private prison.  Then force you in classes and don't forget the RECORD that follows you.  Minimally 10 days if you refuse the blood test, which you should as lochlannmatt points out.  

Basically this law is a Back Door egregious override of the peoples vote to Legalize.  Drive to a dispensary for your Medical Marijuana and you'll want to down a lot of beer and shots from the Governors brewpub to calm your nerves.  See, he will drive the Golden Spike in your heart by signing this nonsense.  

If they were REALLY worried about Accidents and highway deaths they would crack down on Distracted Drivers.  This, the National Highway Transportation Board has actually gathered numbers for and they are ugly.  I hate using Wikipedia but it does have aggregate information.  Rough numbers are 500,000 accidents a year and 5,000+ deaths:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distracted_driving

Norml has info:

http://norml.org/component/zoo/item/how-dangerous-is-drugged-driving-anyway#41

Hint: Ozium (Office Depot-lol) kills odor and it was time to clear your car anyway.  Oh, and even changing the radio channel in your car is "distracted driving".  Test yourself for times you take your eye off the road and you'll see distracted driving may get you pulled over, not Cannabis.


lochlannmatt
lochlannmatt

You'd think one reporter OR one sheriff in Colorado would remember last week's Supreme Court decision:ALL BLOOD DRAWS NEED A WARRANT!Never mentioned.

Colorado remembers last week's SC decision?
All blood draws need a warrant.Goes for weed-DUIs too.

Here and in its own courts the State based its case on 
an insistence that a driver who declines to submit to test­
ing after being arrested for driving under the influence of 
alcohol {and/or weed} is always subject to a non consensual blood test 
without any precondition for a warrant. That is incorrect."





http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/12pdf/11-1425_cb8e.pdf



Steve At Work
Steve At Work

We elected the imbeciles. Maybe it's time to vote differently.

Corey Donahue
Corey Donahue

Way to tuck tail will, "oh it's bullshit, but oh well," fuck man grow some balls. It will make a much easier story. Here is how you find the home addresses of the legislatures who voted to violate you human right to privicy. If cannabis users get no privicy then our legislatures get no privicy. http://tracer.sos.colorado.gov/PublicSite/SearchPages/CandidateSearch.aspx And here is how the votes broke down and remember they want to rape you with a needle for your blood, so please act acordingly. http://www.coloradocapitolwatch.com/search5/bill_chamber_votes.php?r=1&c=House&ca=1&cu=1 http://www.coloradocapitolwatch.com/search5/bill_chamber_votes.php?r=1&c=Senate&ca=1&cu=1

Stephan Reuchlein
Stephan Reuchlein

You are all full of shit if you think it doesn't impair.Why the hell else would you use it? It makes you feel different than when you are not doing it. It slows your reaction time. That will affect your response to situations that you need fast reflexes for such as a child running into the road. Don't freaking lie!!! Sick of people trying to justify why you should be able to drive while high!

Chris Earley
Chris Earley

Roads full of drunks, pill poppers and texters.

Brad Kinney
Brad Kinney

The ploy is to control that is all .. Anyone who attempts control is obviously a control freak in a controlled society w controlled lies and control phobia .. Govt honestly believes it has rights to do this bcuz they feel superior and controlling .. Well do not consent and corpus dilecti !!! U can't argue the basis of all law .. No loss no harm No damage to persons or properties??? Then theres is no crime . Can't be a crime without a victim .. Paid for idiocy with your dollars ... Way to go !!

Jared Bella
Jared Bella

Hahaaaha "Unscientific Bullshit".. Awesome. There's no damn way I'd ever let any cop draw blood from me.

Brad Kinney
Brad Kinney

Get over ya self and learn to accept truth.

Brad Kinney
Brad Kinney

Prove it impairs it doesn't .. Foolish actions by foolish people .

Stephan Reuchlein
Stephan Reuchlein

We already have enough impaired drivers, don't need more added to the mix, stay home if you've toked.

turnipthebeet
turnipthebeet

Actually, one of the reasons I dig leafly is for the way they do their photographs. Users can upload photos so you can see a variety of final products and phenos. And! There's a safe-for-work mode, which you need to toggle off to see the photos. Love what you do!

DonkeyHotay
DonkeyHotay topcommenter

Thursday, May 16 2013 

Time travel much?

irq77
irq77

Unscientific bullshit indeed.

Juan_Leg
Juan_Leg

@shamanhawk  

Americans are controlled by media reported propaganda and fear !

The ONLY accurate news reported by ESPECIALLY, local sources, are sport finals ...

rsteeb
rsteeb

@Stephan Reuchlein OTC antihistamines impair me FAR more than my normal dose of herb.  That is the TRUTH.

Rico
Rico

@Stephan Reuchlein You sir are an idiot.  You've obviously never tried what you rail against have you?  Admit it.  My wife eats part of a brownie to help a serious RA condition in order for her to work every day.  It doesn't make her "High" it relieves her pain and allows her to work and contribute to society like a normal human being.  If she were pulled over for a broken tail light or any other infraction and the cop wanted to charge her she would fail the test.  Was she imparied?  No, that's what people don't like about the bill asshole.  It doesn't prove impairment.  All it says is you at some point in recent history you put THC in your system.  No one is against a fair test of impairment, this isn't it.  You Mr. Douchelein are full of shit if you think this is a fair, accurate system to detect impairment.

James
James

@Stephan Reuchlein Hey dickhead, the test doesn't prove impairment.  No one's arguing to drive stoned, they're arguing for a fair test.

 
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