J. Roddy Walston on the Identity of the South
Courtesy of ATO Records
Onstage -- his hair whipping like a battlefield banner, his piano splintering, his gnarled voice bellowing and his band crushing out something like rock, something like the blues -- J. Roddy Walston is surely a force, but not really a force of nature, as he is often deemed. His reckless music and wild delivery is the artful sum of the sounds he's always heard in his head: driving honky-tonk, Sun Records rockabilly, Stax singles and heavy classic rock. And he had to work at those sounds to translate them into music that struts off the stage and burns off a record.
Born and raised 30 miles east of Chattanooga in Cleveland, Tennessee (population 41,000), Walston is a son of the South and a son of a musical family, a songwriter's songwriter even if his lyrics are often no more discernible than the slurry phrasings of "Tumblin' Dice" and no less primal than major influences like Little Richard or Jerry Lee Lewis or, undeniably, Led Zeppelin. The stories in his songs are nothing if not meant to be felt in the music.
J. Roddy Walston and the Business return to Denver for an appearance at the Bluebird Theater on Monday, October 27. We caught up with Walston as he and his band made their way toward Texas for a performance at the ACL Music Festival.
Roy Kasten: Tell me a little bit about growing up in Cleveland, Tennessee.
J. Roddy Walston: It's a pretty small town, not necessarily a lot to do. You have to come up with whatever you're going to do on your own. You're making it up for yourself. It's a town of people doing decent jobs trying to raise decent families. It's not some old-school, blown-out industrial town. I still love it. I visit my family and friends there, but I don't know if I could live there again. I think for awhile it held the record for most churches per capita.
That explains a lot.
Yeah. A lot of churches, a classic-rock station, a '50s Stax Records station. A classic-country station on the radio.
Is your family musical?
Yeah. I learned a lot about playing piano and guitar from my grandmother. She was a gospel/honky-tonk player. If you live in that town, it's genetically required that you can sing; you have to be in choir. My older brother is a better musician than I am; he can pick up just about anything and start playing. He likes music but doesn't care about it the way that I do. Maybe because it came so easy for him. So, yeah, my grandmother was pretty influential on me, at least early on.
I didn't realize that the Business has been together since 2002.
Not the exact lineup. No one in the band now, except me, was in the band in 2002. Early on it was sort of an experiment. The idea was that I would write songs and play them with a band or without. Sometimes I would grab audience members and have them play, so they were part of the Business for those few minutes. I had friends who were playing, there would be twelve people or six people playing. I moved to Baltimore, and that's how I met Steve [Colmus] our drummer and Billy [Gordon] our guitar player, and that's when we started touring, and it turned into more of an actual band. That was 2004. We started to have shared successes and shared failures as a real band.
How hard was it to make the transition from being a band playing live to getting it together to make records in the studio?
It's a different mentality. You have to shift gears from being an interpreter and a performer to being more of a creator. But I've always, since I was thirteen or fourteen, recorded stuff on my own, on four-track tape recorders, and then a buddy bought a computer we could record on. And then Billy our guitar player as well. We've been into recording for a long time. Writing songs for us involves a lot of recording, working out the vibe of songs, background vocals and that sort of stuff. It's less what people expect: four guys sitting in the room saying, let's try this or this. It's not really like that. The most modern thing about our band is that we'll send ideas back and forth on iPhones. I hate that awkward sitting in a room, play a song, everybody just try to do something. When we get to work on new stuff, I'd rather everybody have a starting point.
And we're on the road a lot. The harder transition is going from being on the road to being a normal person at home. It's tough to leave home, but we all understand that it's pretty simple to be in a band in a van. You wake up, have a terrible breakfast, you drink some coffee, get in a car and drive eight hours to some place. And then it's two hours of an amazing experience with 200 or 15,000 people or whatever it is. That's not confusing or complicated to navigate. The harder thing is, for the last five weeks, every room I've walked into has been a room full of people there to see me or who want to talk to me -- in the sense of walking into a club, you know. It's a weird, strange mind trip of every night there's a party for you. Then it's like, "I may not come home!" But then you have real friends and real families with lives. It's an effort to make sure that you don't think touring life is normal. Honestly, it takes a good chunk of time for me to be off the road to write. I love playing and performing in front of people who are fans and some who are not fans, but it's not real or normal. It takes a while to get back to having family and normal people around me. It's hard to explain. I'm struggling with the words right now.
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Family is important to your music, lyrically if not in other ways. Your last album, Essential Tremors, invokes both a mother and father in the opening lines. They're calling out to you, it would seem. And the song "Nobody Knows" also invokes the power of familial legacy, in the land and in life. Is that part of that transition of getting back in touch with who you are and what inspires you?
I think family is really strange and amazing. It's one of the things that elevates humans above other animals. It's not perfect and not for everybody, but the idea that you say to someone, "Let's get married." I could mate with someone else walking down the street, but I'm choosing not to. But you're it for life. At least that's what I'm saying right now: You're it for life right now, in that more modern context. I guess I find the dynamic of family important. It's not like a friend you've met, someone you have something in common with. It's people that you're forced to connect with, and they're forced to connect with you. The pressure cooker of family provides a lot of insight into humanity. You could quit those relationships, but even if you walk away they will influence who you are. There's no escaping it. There's a lot of stuff to mine there.
Some people expect that I've had some really bad stuff happen to me, but I have an amazing family, a great relationship with my mom and dad. My wife and I just had our sixth anniversary, but we've been together twelve years. People will say, "Bro, I've had the same stuff happen to me." But I've had a really charmed life, at least in the family sense.
There's a sense, with bands like you and the Business, and pretty clearly, Drive-By Truckers and Lucero, that there's a relationship to the South, even though your songs aren't regional. There's something there that's essential your identity.
The thing with the South is people refer to it as the South. People don't say, "I'm from the North." It's a region of the country that has an identity, but it's way broader. There's modern country [music] playing up trucks and beer and girls in jean shorts. It's a sad, cartoon version of a life that most people who listen to the music don't live. One out of five people who listen to songs about tractors have ever been on one. But there's a weird flow and energy to the South. If you grow up there and you lean towards the arts or being left of center it can be difficult, but then for me when I left and went up north I felt out of place. But you can get a little clarity when you get some separation from it.
And obviously, the South is there in your music. Jerry Lee Lewis and Little Richard loom large. How did you first start integrating piano into the full-on, heavy sound?
For me it wasn't a decision to add this or this and then that's our sound. I think our sound changes from record to record, even song to song. It's more, "Here's everything I like. I want to do that." Piano came from just picking up keyboards and just making sounds. I was doing a guitar and drum thing. I came the long way around to actually writing on the piano. I didn't set out to do that. I taught myself to play piano and guitar by writing songs. To get the sound I heard in my head, I'd have to go to other people to accomplish that. I had no idea how to do what I heard in my head. Eventually it came back around to my grandmother and sitting and watching her play piano.
How do your pianos survive night after night?
I have three of them. They get rotated in and out. We travel with two. I've become a reluctant and occasional piano repairman. You kind of see stuff going downhill. It's like driving an old car. You have to constantly mess with the older gear to keep it from falling apart. You never think it's in perfect shape, but you love it for its weirdness and the fact that it's so tough to deal with.
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