The members of Holophrase on working with Ikey Owens on Horizons of Expectation

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Although their music recalls the angular and alien guitar sounds of Chrome and Magazine and the dark, expressive rhythmic ideas of Love Life, the members of Holophrase were not aware of those groups before putting together their own songs. Instead, Luis Etscheid, Jared and Caleb Henning and Polish expatriate Malgorzata Stacha challenged themselves to not overtly nor consciously follow in the footsteps of music they'd heard a lot growing up. The group is now putting out its first EP, Horizons of Expectation, and we recently had a chance to sit down with the band to talk about the EP and what its title means not just for the music within but for the band itself.

Westword: Why did you call your EP Horizons of Expectation and how did that name come about?

Jared Henning: It was a phrase I stumbled across in a literature class in college. It refers to a specific way of approaching a text that focuses on the exchange between a reader and the author. Horizons of expectation are what those individual parties bring to the interaction.

You recorded this EP with Isaiah "Ikey" Owens. How did you get hooked up with him?

Luis Etscheid: We went to see Panal C.V. de S.A. play in Boulder with his band Free Moral Agents at some bar. We started mingling and we found out what was driving him and found out he'd won a Grammy at 35 with 36 rapidly approaching, but he was still down to touring to play at bar shows. He had all these accomplishments under his belt and he still seemed down to earth. We picked his brain a little bit, and I guess he liked that, and one thing lead to the next.

How did you find Ikey as a producer?

Caleb Henning: The whole middle of "The Ninth Circle," we didn't really know what we wanted to do with it, and he helped us develop a jungle-sounding, circuit bent thing -- just where the whole song falls apart and goes into a double beat, with some Polish poetry and the circuit bent thing comes back, and it goes back into the main song. That whole part was added the day of recording.

Malgorzata Stacha: The composition was kind of long and had a lot of pieces, but he had it all charted out and tried to figure it out with specific names for each part. It was a hard song to approach. He wanted to get a feel for it and then he came up with the idea to make a section that's a release before we jump back into tension. We created that part pretty much in the studio.

LE: It was kind of a contrast part, too, in the sense that it has a swelling, meandering feel, and improvised. The rest of the song is very deliberate and complex to an extent. In addition to that, how we were playing our songs in the studio was very much influenced by the mood he brought into the room, especially in his approach to tones.

CE: Before recording it, we had all the tones sounding very different from how it came out. It was a lot jazzier and coffee shop. He made it a lot more mellow. "The Ninth Circle" sounded a lot more aggressive before we recorded it.

How many songs did you end up recording with Ikey?

LE: Seven. Four for this EP, and we may try to record some more tracks. We might just release a couple of "singles" or give ourselves some more time to get back in the studio.

MS: The songs were grouped by mood. At some point, we decided to split the songs into two parts based on the mood and the energy of them to release something more cohesive.

What's the origin of the title "Hair Gardens"?

LE: We threw the skeleton of that song together and started accumulating bits and pieces of it. As for the mindset I was in at the time I thought of it, I imagined hair growing from the ground and taking over cities and schools and cars and traffic--people choking on it. Just the imagery of strands of hair all over, time lapse style.

Like a weird J.G. Ballard novel.

LE:Yeah. We started calling it that and it stuck.

MS:Ikey gave us his own titles for the songs. Do you remember any of those?

JH: He called it "The Heat of Fusion," "Fajita Fusion." It was because the sound engineer wrote "Fajita Fusion" on the recording.

So Ikey was more the producer?

MS: Yeah, he was barking orders.

LE: I wouldn't saying "barking orders." More like "roaring orders."

CH: He runs a tight ship.

LE: He cracked the whip when he needed to but most of the time he was pretty laid back.

CH: We had band meetings every two hours.

MS: We worked eight to ten hours a day with breaks.

LE: We were there six and a half days. And we rested on the seventh day.

CH: And it was good.

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Tom Murphy is a writer, visual artist and musician from Aurora, Colorado. He was a prolific music writer for Westword and a documenter of the Denver music scene.