For the past year, Meow Wolf has explored various spots around Denver — the Sports Castle, the old Denver Post plant off I-70. And the winner? A spot right in the gritty heart of Denver, a triangular space created by the Auraria Parkway and the viaducts of Colfax Avenue and Interstate 25, just across the river from Sports Authority Field and close to the Pepsi Center and Elitch Gardens...which is significant, because Meow Wolf's Denver development partner is Revesco Properties, a real estate and management company that's an owner and managing partner in Elitch Gardens. In fact, the Meow Wolf team will work out of Elitch's HR office before that building is demolished and Meow Wolf Denver constructed. Groundbreaking is slated for this spring; Meow Wolf Denver's target opening is early 2020.
"We knew we could create great things, but it would take money," he continues. And as any arts group knows, money can be hard to find.
Then three years ago, Kadlubek floated an idea for a groundbreaking exhibit, an immersive experience, past a former boss at a Santa Fe movie theater: George RR Martin, creator of Game of Thrones. "I knew George. He actually fired me," he recalls. "It was kind of a long shot; I did not expect him to get back to me."
But Martin not only got back to him, he bought the old Silva Lanes bowling alley in a $2.7 million deal that allowed Meow Wolf to create the House of Eternal Return. "We still didn't have money, but we had a lease," Kadlubek says. "This was real. This was really real."
"By July of 2016," he continues, "we saw the sort of magnitude, the lines out the door, the five-star reviews, the articles in international publications, and that's when we said, 'This is more than Santa Fe; other cities could have this.' And that's what we hope to spark."
As the Meow Wolf team began looking at other cities, Denver was a natural, since the artists had spent plenty of time in the Mile High City and knew many people in the arts scene, including the founders of Rhinoceropolis, which had just been closed in the wake of the Ghost Ship fire. If Meow Wolf already had a high profile with House of Eternal Return, that profile only grew as the group started a DIY fund to help community art spaces threatened with closure with rent and infrastructure improvements. Over the past year, the fund has given $215,000 to over a hundred groups across the country, including Rhinoceropolis and Glob. Meow Wolf was also tapped to distribute City of Denver funds to local DIY groups.
Last January, the Meow Wolf crew started talking in earnest not just with developers, but with local artists, starting with a meeting at Forest Room 5. It was a tough time for members of Denver's DIY arts scene, already threatened by rising rents; the crackdown after Ghost Ship only heightened artists' concerns. But Kadlubek says they never treated the Meow Wolf team as interlopers...and Denver groups such as Itchy-O traveled to Santa Fe to perform at House of Eternal Return (see video above). "The creative communities have been welcoming, the art institutions have been welcoming," he adds. "Denver doesn't have the insular, protective territorialism.... Denver's pushing things, with an influx of young people, new money, new ways to do business."
"It's so funky," Kadlubek admits. "It's confusing to get to, and getting to it will almost be part of the experience."
Almost. But once you're inside, you'll be in a different world. From Denver, and from House of Eternal Return, too. "If Santa Fe's House brought you into one family's life, the Denver experience is going to take you into an entire world.... That's how we're distinguishing the two," Kadlubek says.
That's about as much detail on the concept as Meow Wolf will be revealing for now; more will be revealed in the second quarter of 2018, when fundraising will also begin in earnest. But plans are already solid enough that 2020 tickets will be available today at meowwolf.com, and the partners are already anticipating hiring between 150 and 300 local artists and craftspeople. "We're going to spend the money well, on the most awesome creatives," Kadlubek promises. "We're getting ready to move." The twenty-year lease is already signed, and the project is moving forward through the city's permitting and planning processes.
There are challenges ahead, of course. Raising the money is no guarantee; arts groups in Denver are already struggling to come up with the cash for their own projects, and may not take kindly to a Santa Fe outfit dipping into that same pot, even if it is hiring local artists. And Meow Wolf will have to grow, and quickly, to handle everything on its plate. "We have created project management systems," Kadlubek says. "Our culture exists in every conversation that we have with each other...our culture will stay alive. It's about respect, love, listening, supporting."
Still, many great arts efforts have started across the country in the past decade and gone nowhere. Why did Meow Wolf take off? "I think we gave people an experience that gave customers a type of freedom to explore and be curious and discover in a way no other consumer experience has ever done," Kadlubek concludes. "And it really just comes out of trusting and respecting people and believing that they're not going to vandalize, they don't need to be controlled, they don't need to go along a certain path, they don't need maps and guides, they don't need their hands held.... A lot of the art world has not given credit to the general population, that they need dumb art or Star Wars. Actually, the general population wants to go see weird and creative stuff."